Combines 1 2 Ton Pickups which to buyIJ

[sidekick]

You need to start this fight over on the Allis forum.

 

[oldstruck]

The best mileage will come out of a GM. NOT pulling anything. Toyota would be ok, but be careful they do not get the mileage they claim. They are not bad but, I think now Dodge and Ford are together. The difference is about 1 to 2 miles per gallon per mile, between all of them. Just driving. Pulling may be a whole other ball game. I would try to stay between the 5.0 to 5.7 liter size motors. We have a 4.8 V8 in our work pickup, good on gas, 20-21 most of the time, but I would not pull even that large of a camper that well. It would do it but we would have to take our time to get there. Plus it all depends on how you drive and where you are driving. How much stuff you carry with you all the time. My concern right now would be how long will the company brand be aroundIJ I was a big gm fan, till they killed off Olds. It made me mad, so I looked around. I still will buy a GMC before a Chevy for the shear principle of it all. I think the quality of most brands is pretty good. Dodge has come a long ways from the old days. Ford has a good unit and GM has been getting back what they had lost about a decade ago. I did look at Nissan, good room in the cab, they are a bit more fuel hungery than the rest. I am not sure of the resale value. Not many around here, even with a Nissan dealer here in town. Toyota seems to be getting everywhere. My father in-law, a die hard Ford man, bought a Toyota last year. He has stated out loud, it is the best pickup he has ever owned. He buys a new truck every two years. He has wandered to a Chevy in 2003, back to Ford in 2005, Dodge in 1999, Ford in 2001. And Fords before 1999. Cant say he didnt try others. IF that was any help. ok, which dealer treats you best, after the saleIJ or which is the closest to youIJ Which do you feel the most comfortable sitting inIJ Ease of getting in and out of!IJ Creature comfortsIJ Also check on the cost of routine maintenance items. Which one will cause the most gossip at the coffee shopIJ Have a Happy Holiday.

 

[Gleamer]

Anything American would be the choice. The Japs have yet to build a truck worthy of my American dollar.. Every imported product I have ever been in seemed like a tin can with fancy gadjets. They have been preying upon American infatuation with "stuff" for years till a good percentage believe it is the only way. My choice would be Dodge, Chevy then Ford. Mileage is of no cernern when buying a truck no matter the size, they all get around 15-20 mpg. I want a truck with power, guts, stability with load and ablility to do more than rated once in a while.. They all have played a part in leading the way for decades in development of the pickup, they are the copied, not the copier.... My 2 cents

 

[gleanermanitoba]

I run a Ford and no issues yet, now on a 3_4 ton but ran 1_2 ton for years. I found the ford 1_2 tons could be light on springs on the back depending on how they were speced, may be an issue depending on hitch weight, otherwise ran well decent mileage if you can get that on a truck 15-24 mpg depending on wind, load etc. I don't remember when ford changed body styles but I think 04 if so the 04's have been beefed up considerably, if prior to 04 you could get a 7700 gvw which is a heavy half basicly, 5.4 l engine, heavier tranny and bigger wheels and brakes, can't comment on milage but anyone I know that had one liked them. My dad is a GM man, pulled a 25' 5th wheel with a chevy 1_2 ton and it was ok but he ended up upgrading to 3_4 ton as well but he is planning on longer trips as well. He had no real complaints either on his truck. I would not be afraid of the toyota or nissan trucks from what I have heard, only concern is they are a phisically smaller truck so wheather this would affect camper handling I do not know. Probably confused you more but maybe not.

 

[Kurt]

I drive a toyota tundra, which was built in Ohio with American workers. I think they are very happy with their jobs. My mother drives a ford built in Mexico, and my father-in-law drives a chevy built in Canada, those two may be turned around. My tundra has more power and exceleration than my previous ford, with a 5.4 liter, ever thought of having. Mine is a double cab with an 8' box. So it is a big pickup. I have gotten 18 mpg at 70 miles an hour. I thought that was pretty good. The 5.7 liter engine has great power when pulling our 25' horse trailer. It is light on the rear springs. I have been thinking about adding air bags or another spring to it. It also turns sharper than my short box ford could. I could problem go on for a while but I think you can tell that I like it pretty well. By the way I am the black sheep of my family, as my grandfather started the ford dealership in my town and that is all my family has ever driven. I just couldn't stand the way they were made anymore. My 4 cents Kurt

 

[peteguy]

I do agree that ford quality has slipped alot. I have a correction to make on you locations: Toyata Tundras, the new actual full-size ones, are assembled in Ohio, not built. many parts are shipped in, and then they are just put together in ohio. wheras the big three builds all their stuff in North america, GM building the most in america to my knowledge.

 

[peteguy]

My vote goes to GM or Dodge. Ford products have not been great lately. Toyota and Nissan are just not as well designed for farm use. Neighbor had to get rid of his toyota because the electronics were not designed for dust. mainly the tire pressure sensors. also fuel economy towing is horrid on the two foreign trucks. As far as fuel economy empty, the GM will be king. Also, keep in mind, for 2009, Gm tows the most, Dodge has a coil sprung rear end, whick i would not be a huge fan of. but, the 09 dodge does finally have full size crew cab, rather than the not big enough quad cab. I would just really take an e-85 capable 5.3ll powered 2009 Gm 1500 CCSB with six speed auto. good luck!

 

[Kurt]

Yes you are correct. After I wrote that I started wondering if it was built or assembled, and it is assembled. But when you say the big 3 builds their in N. America, that is not saying American, that includeds Canada and Mexico, rightIJ That wasn't what the previous poster wanted he wanted an American built truck

 

[Gleamer]

Where does the profit go of the TundraIJ To the empire that smacked us nearly 70 years ago.. Do not ever think the empire has our best interest at heart, they want your money and make you feel fuzzy to give it to them. They never put money into our infrasturcture, they just use it and make an uneducated portion of Americans think it's ok.. They will own this country some day, problem is the Chinese are trying to beat them. They will never give up, hope I am dead and gone to never see it...

 

[Kurt]

So are you saying that they don't pay taxes here in the USAIJ I sure thought that all of the employes of the dealerships and the assembly line all pay taxes. I don't think those same assembly lines in Mexico and Canada pay any taxes in the USA. And where do the profits that Ford, GM, Chevy goIJIJ looks like to me just to the higher up excutives that are making all of these great decisions. So great are their decisions that they need our tax payer money to keep going. It just doesn't add up. AS of what happened 70 years ago, I think they learned their lesson. Do you make sure that everything you buy is made in the USAIJ It's pretty hard not buy something that's made in China, Korea, etc.. I think none of them have our best interest at heart either, and seems like we've been at war with them also.