Combines 14 series without a rock trap

[Ham]

Does it have the stone retarder drum at the front of the feederhouseIJ The chains will be recessed into the drum if it does.. Not sure if they had them for 14 Series or not. What sort of rocks do you haveIJ Soft limestone is one thing..granite or ironstone is a different matter...

 

[Ohio__Steve]

Bob,If you get a fair sized rock into the rotor it can get expensive because it will go around several times until it gets out doing damage all the way.Broken auger fingers aren't much better.However there are alternatives to the rock trap such as the drum that HAM mentioned which can be set low preventing rocks from entering the feeder.Can use a Johnson rock guard or the hose modification on the head and the plastic auger fingers.Rock trap from a salvage yard or even new can be added..Would say a 1440 could be bought around here in the $6000 to $12000 range depending on condition.Take off the front covers and check out the cone and the side panels to carefully inspect the rotor system for wear or damage..Not that their are hidden wear parts ,you just have to open it up a bit to get an accurate picture.Good luck..Steve

 

[hv_user]

been done that dont do it... finaly installed one dont even think of buying without a trap eventualy you will push side out of cage even with running stone retarder tight if you have any stone at all. good luck you wont regret buying a 1460 good servicable machine. JIM

 

[George_2]

Don't even think of buying a combine without a rock trap. I have been there and done that. You will end up with a load of grief for a bunch of reasons. First the 1420 has a lot of unique parts that are obsolete. The 40, 60, and 80 series parts are easy to get. The unique 20 series parts are not as readily available. Secondly as others have stated one stone can do a lot of damage. I have seen some in excess of $10,000. The rock trap works real well. I have probably picked up over a dozen rocks since I got my 1460 and only one small one went in. It however bent the two front concaves but did not damage the specialty rotor. The two front concaves were getting worn anyway and I replaced them last year. The two new concaves cost over $1100 Canadian dollars (probably $700 US).Thirdly the 1420 is underpowered and the one I drove had no capacity improvement over my old 715. The 1440 is also somewhat underpowered and had the same threshing body as the 1460. If you can possibly find a good 1460 or 1480 with a rock trap and feed reverser, and a rock drum up front on the feeder, you will thank your lucky stars the first time you find a big three inch rock in the rock trap. The 1460 has enough power to handle a 17.5 foot in heavy wheat or a 20 foot header in soybeans. It can also handle a 6 row narrow corn head easily. The 1460's and 1480's are more common and the used price reflects that. The few 1420's I have seen have all been high priced for the capacity. Just my experience.

 

[gms]

I have a1982 1460 it doesnt have a rock trap but does have the retarder on the feeder havent used it in beans just got it last summer needed a little work done on it how hard and how pricey would it be to put a rock trap on because there a guy out west of me that junks out nothing but ih

 

[Jr64]

I ran a 1460 in heavy rocks for 7 years without a rock trap and never ruined the rotor. The key for me was to fertilize the beans that were in the rocks. That put the lowest pods at 4 to 5" off the ground so I could carry the header and lose no more beans than if I was running on the ground. I had a stone retarder drum which saved me a few times. Get some stone guards on your header if you want extra protection from ingested rocks.

 

[big_john]

1460 is deffinitly the way to go. I bought one last spring cheap and it needed alot of work. When I was done had to put a rock trap on to protect all the new parts I had just installed. I had trouble finding one. If you haven't found one yet call wayne 989-453-2120 he'll set up you with a replacement kit thats under $2500.00 if you need to buy everything