Combines 2166 or 2188

Cedar_Bend

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We operate a 2166 in comperable terrain with a 6 row narrow corn head and a 20 foot bean platform. We had these same heads with our 1660, but I believe the added power of the new machine would handle a 25 foot fine. Most of the time running 3 to 4 mph. Biggest factor to consider is specialty vs. standard rotor. The older 1660 had a standard and when the sun went down, the combine did to in beans. The specialty rotor, however, is very aggresive and can handle just about as much as we can give it. Consider a later 2166 vs. a '95 model which doesn't have the aftercooler on the engine (even though the rated horsepower is the same). The aftercooler should give you a little more torque in tough conditions.
 

Deadduck

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Are you running more than one 1460IJ I know a guy that went from 2 1460's to one 2388 and cuts about the same acres per day. Of course, he switched to wider headers as well. If you're not planning to upgrade headers, the 2166 will be fine. But if you think your business will keep growing and you might want to upgrade headers in the future, the 2188 would be the way to go. And it will run the smaller headers fine, it just won't be working as hard. As far as rotor choice, if you're mainly corn and wheat, the standard rotor is fine. But if you do very many soybeans, the specialty rotor is much better. The specialty rotor may have somewhat higher rotor loss in corn, but that can be solved with Gordon bars or other methods. The AFX rotor has the most capacity, but wouldn't be in a 2188 unless it has been retro-fitted. Good luck with your decision.
 

Marv

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I've run a 6 row 30" head on a 1688, 2188's, and 2388's. I've never had a problem with rotor loss in corn. Just adjust the vanes over the separator portion of the rotor to keep the corn in there longer, usually the mid position. A 2188 will have plenty of capacity for a 6 row wide head, but that's better than not enough. And you won't have to worry about lack of capacity with a 22.5' 1020. You'll be amaze at how much more you can get done with a 2188. A specialty rotor may be best, but not a must.
 

west_illini

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I run a 6 row head on a 1680 and had a question on vanes. In day in really heavy corn, I would have a few kernals come off the rotor if I drove over 4.2 or so mph. The rear vanes are at mid position. Would I cause too much congestion if I moved them to the retarded setting. THe rotor is at the slowest @ 320 with cocaves at 4-5. IF I close it much more the cobs grind up and there is more cleaning for the seives to do.
 

JWK

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WI, Do you have a rock trap on your 1680IJ Why am I askingIJIJIJ Here in Minnesota we had a cool summer....did not install air conditioner in the window on the house....gives you some idea of temps. Back to the RT. The reason I ask is..I think the RT does more breakage of cobs again this year in corn. Talked to Mech. today...he said there are guys having cobs break also.... Care to shed some light on this subject. Thanks Jack
 

west_illini

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Yep, I do. And I don't really need it. The cobs are coming out nearly whole with the concaves wide. When I start tightening them down I start to get bits in the tank. I don't want close the sieves down anymore to screen the bits out because then the corn rides out the back. If I could, I would trade the RT_short feeder for a long feeder.
 

MICK

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I HAD BOTH 1480 AND 1680 WITH EIGHT ROW HEADS. NOW I HAVE 2366 WITH EIGHT ROW HEAD AND HAVE SHEllED 200 BUSHEl CORN AT 4.3MPH WITH SPECIAlTY ROTOR-ONlY DIFFERENCE I SEE IS THAT MY SAMPlE lOOKS BETTER WITH 2366 AND I SPENT A lOT lESS MONEY. A GOOD FRIEND HAS 2188 WITH 6 ROW HEAD AND RAN 5.5 MIlES PER HOUR IN 200 BUSHEl CORN-NO PROBlEMS. BOTTOM lINE-A lOT OF COMBINATIONS WIll WORK WITH THESE MACHINES.
 
 
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