Combines 4400 or F2 GleanerIJ

Farny

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I have seen a 4400 do some pretty good harvesting for the machine that it is. I have only witnessed an F2 in the field a couple times. The F2 I saw had a hydrostat and nicer cab, but couldn't perform as well as the deere. That's about what I know between them!
 

Bub

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we ran a l gleaner and a 7700 john deere for years went round for round the john deere did a better job of thrashing and cleaning but the gleaner was far eaiser to work on
 

John

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An F2 will out perform a 4400. We owned an F2 several years ago and had neighbors with 4400, we were always helping them finish up because when it was muddy the Deere wouldn't go. Deere's were underpowered back then too. We also helped others with 6600 and 7700. One year we shelled down both sides of a 6600 that was hungup, then shelled up to the front and went to back and pulled the 6600 out. As far as doing a good job harvesting, if you don't know how to adjust a machine, none will do a good job. But a Gleaner will meet or beat any machine in grain samples. Good luck with your purchase.
 

Farmer_Ed

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There is no comparison here! F2 by far is the better machine. Why would you want to sit next to an engine all day and a offset cab!IJ! JD just got their head straightened out when they finally come out with the 9600 series! The F2 is balanced nicely both front to back and side to side. like the others said it will go through way more then the JD and if you have it set right, it will handle just as much and do a better job, not to mention working on it is sooooooooooooo much easier! I know others will debate with me but I'd get the 292 GM straight 6 gas, and standard transmission. They are good machines. We don't go by color on our farm, we go by what we think is the best. From the old pull type Allis-Chalmers, to the 55 John Deeres, to the Gleaners, to the Axial Flows, and now-a-days I'm not sure what is the best out there. That's just my opinion though. Good luck and I surely hope you wind up with a F2 in this case!!!!!
 

jp

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What do you mean Deeres used to be underpoweredIJ They still are, just look at the complaints about the new STS.
 

toolman

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I never ran an F2, but fromwhat I hear an seen, the Gleaner looked cheaper. I own a Deere 4400 diesel and a 4400 Gas. Gas has plenty of power in my opinion running 4 rows. The diesel is better, smoother, and better on fuel. And, if I need parts, I can get them right away, and when you are harvesting, thats important.
 

SilverTurnedGreen

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I know when my uncle traded his F3 for a 4420, he considered it a moderate move "up", although he mentioned that the Gleaner was far easier to work on. I have great difficulty believing that an F2 could keep up to a proerly functioning 6600 or 7700, but I guess it's "nice to dream" once in a while! When I traded my l3 for a 7720, there was no comparison at all; - the Deere exceeded the Gleaner in capacity, hands down!
 

JHEnt

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This question has come up alot on different boards. Heres what I can tell you. The Gleaner has quite shorter walkers and a shorter shoe while being nearly the same width. However the shorter more square shoe area does have an advantage in its airflow pattern. This makes seperating small seed like alfalfa, clovers, timothy grass and some others easier. The operator is still very much the variable with either machine. I installed an adjustable air foil chaffer in my 4400 this year and got nearly as clean red clover seed as an old pull type Allis combine. The sample from my niebors F2 leaves much to be desired although I think if he took a little more time to set it he would get much cleaner seed. The 4400 with its open grate concave and larger seperating area has an easier time with soybeans and similar crops. I can move faster with my 16' flex head without grain loss out the back than my niebor can with his 15' flex platform on his F2. As far as the JD being underpowered I have run an older 292 Chevy powered one as well as my current 329 cu in diesel engined and both have plenty of power. The 329 was also used as the base model engine in the 6600 which is why so many people complain of 6600's being underpowered. I dont think the 4400 is all that hard to work on even if it has more sheet metal covering the external workings than the Gleaner.
 
 
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