Combines 54 ft header

Redman

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First of does jd even have a 54'IJ well anyway one of my dads cousins is an agco designer and they are making a 54' header because costom cutters are complaining because a 30' header cannot keep the gleaners full of grain and if the costom cutters run at a speed in which the 30'er keeps it full then the farmers complain becasuse they are going too fast and the farmers think they arent doing a good enough job but truly i dont think any combine on the market today is worth a 54 foot headerIJIJ i mean the only plase you can use that is in north dakota south dakota and australia but other than that its useless and far too big.
 

Deerebines

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Redman...........I cut places today where a 30 foot was even to big. Until they learn to really "flex" that header they better stick with 30's and 30's only. By the way, Is this 54 footer a draper style header or is it supposed to be fashioned after the ones like todayIJ If it's a draper style like honeybee wouldn't the gleaner owners buy one of those if they were so concerned with the farmers complaints of driving to fastIJ Even macdon offers a bigger one than 30 feet I think. Curiosity get's the best of me I guess. Deerebines
 

T__langan

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Redman is full of wind - read the thread by the same name in the Gleaner section. I am not your dad's cousin, idiot!
 

cat_matt

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If someone makes a 54' header, how would a combine unload. A 30' augerIJ
 

Ice_Man

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First of all MacDon does not make a 34' head but they do make a 36', 30', and more smaller headers. The 36' has a standard guage-wheel_transport system which eliminates the need for a header trailer. I have run a 36' about 1000 hrs. off and on for the last 6 years and they are a pleasure to run. As far as getting into a place where it is to big there designs help over come these problems. Such as a narrow gate the header design makes it so it is has more ground clearence than a 930 and allows it to clear the fence. On 95% of terraces the macdon is more efficient because of the floating design allows for a 36' cut rather than a 20 or 25 with a 930. This is the reason for the guage wheels. As far as road transport there have been 2 or 3 times that the head had to be removed that the 930 headers were not. In the field they are a dream to run. With a tweak of the machine here and there we can run the same speed as a 930 and still save the grain as well. The way I see it that is a gain of 20%. There are some draw backs. The 930 requires much less daily service. The macdon is not a heavily built header and has a much shorter life. And by the way it does not have the resale of a green machine. Deere has been working on a draper header for 3 or 4 years now in 30 and 36 feet widths. Honey Bee has a well built header that is probabaly worth the money even over a macdon. But the problem is there dealer network is not very strong except in the northern states and canada. As far as a 54' it better be a draper or it won't be worth owning. Headers are something the manufactures have not put a large emphasis on and should. If you are going to build a 54' straight head what about a 16 row corn headIJ
 

statboy44

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If you look at the product lit. for the Gleaner silver series rotary combines ( brand new R42, 52, 62,72 is called silver series),the product lit. for the small grain has a picture of one. I just saw it at Alexander EQ.
 
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