Thanks, Turbo, for the tips on how to check the rasp bars. They were OK by that standard. Concave was not bellied, but would not close up all the way. It was easy to see after we pulled the feeder house off. just don nailed it; the link on the right had broken, one cotter pin had fell out that holds the cams in place, and the left cam dropped out of the levelling adjuster. It had worn down at least 3_4" in the side sheet. With the concave closed up, I could almost pass my hand between the cylinder and the concave at the second bar! Parts are ordered and will be here from Syracuse in the morning. Other issues on this old machine to deal with: several bad bearings, and a digital tach that wants to burn up the ground (white) wire if you plug it in while running. Oh well, never a dull moment! Oliver "Never wrestle with a pig; you both get all dirty, and the pig likes it."