Combines 80 Special question

Big_Al

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I know we had one, it was the first combine dad bought new and it was the first combine I ever got to ride on I would stand behind the seat and that was my spot we don't have the combine anymore but still have the service manual and it says on the cover it is for an 80 Special. I don't know what the difference to just an 80 would be but they did make an 80 Special
 

Wildcat

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Dad had a 90 Special, Grandpa had a 80 Special, my uncle had a 60 Special; all mid 50's vintage. I also rode behind the seat, it was quite a sight to see them all in the same wheat field at the same time. I'd love to have the 90 back again, it was quite the machine for it's time.
 

wildcat1

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Wow.......been so long that I didn't remember that place to stand behind the seat. Dad would lean over and help move the controls when I was learning to drive it. I remember it had the foot pedal ground control tied to the hand lever. Dad traded for a brand new JD 55 in 1966. I always seemed to like the Massey better though. We ran two 55s till 1990 when I traded for a 1480. Just bought a 1998 2388 in December, got to use it on about 250 acres of milo and beans already. What was the difference in a regular number Massey and a "special" IJ
 

Red_Painter

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Found a pic of an 80 special in one of my historical books so there was an 80 special made. Actually it was in the back of a Massey tractor book. Other historical books don't show the 80 special or it's not listed that way. Grain, rice and edible bean models were avaliable in either tank or bagger versions. Our neighbor had a 90 special with leveller added for the hillsides. Went freewheeling down a hill with my dad running it once because there was a neutral spot in the variable speed he didn't know about. Dad gradually steered it sideways up into the hillside where it could be stopped. The owner's son would not run it. I think it was ok once one got used to how to run it. Dad used it a couple times to open up the field by going around the fences so the pull type combine would not track down the wheat on the first round. Pull types lasted longer in the Pacific Northwest since they had more capacity than early hillside self propelleds and were safer on the hills with a cat attatched.
 

Wildcat

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I can't tell you what the special stood for except that as I recall it had wheat heads on the decals by the word special, maybe it was a wheat special. Dad and Grandpa are gone but my uncle may remember, he could probably recite the serial numbers of all 3 if given a little time to think about it. I'll ask and let you know if he remembers. If you Google MH 90 special, there are a few pictures out there. Grandpa's 80 went for a IH 303 about '64 or so, the 90 was traded for a new JD 95 in '68. As much a I loved that old combine, that new Deere with a factory cab made you forget it in a hurry. After a few Deere's, we're Gleaner now; long story. It's funny how little things trip your memory about the old MH's. Around here corn was dropped in favor of milo in the early 60's; in 1994 we started growing corn again. That fall as I made the first pass through the first field I stopped to check things out. As I swung the cab door open I caught a wiff of that sort-of sweet, almost burning smell of corn being combined; something I hadn't smelled for 30 years. It was almost like stepping back 30 years and standing behind Grandpa on the 80 picking corn. I'm sure I've forgotten the bad times with those old girls, didn't run them much myself; but I've still got a few parts hanging on the walls from the 90, you never know what you'll see sitting abandoned in a shed somewhere, I guess. Never thought I'd own a Farmall M either. Take care.
 

hv_user

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I had a 90 special with a leveling kit on it. It had big drive chains on it because of the leveling system. I wish I would have kept it to just to restore.
 

cookie_jar

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I have a Massey Harris 80 (S.N.201824) and an 80 SP Special Combine (S.N.212421)as well as the operating instructions for both and a parts book that covers both. There are all kinds of differences between the 80 and 80SP, just as in the 750 red cab and grey cab. One significant change was the incorporation of sealed bearings (S.N.204879),which reduced the number of grease points by about 100. The 80 had a pedal speed control, while the 80SP used a lever. The 1955 80SP introduced a drive clutch. On the 80 you had to run the speed control all the way down to disengage the engine from the drive transmission. The returns in the 80 were augured to the cylinder, while in the 80SP they went down a chute from the top of the return elevator. The cleaning shoe on the 80 had all the grain that passed through the chaffer slide down a sloped floor under it to the front of the cleaning sieve before it dropped into the wind again. On the 80SP, grain that fell through the chaffer continued on down to the clean grain sieve unimpeded. The 80SP replaced the conventional table auger fingers with a much more open design of angle iron pieces, which were totally trouble free and worked very well indeed. But I guess farmers preferred what they were used to, and Massey went back to the troublesome enclosed auger fingers. About 30 years ago I converted my 80SP to 12V negative ground, keeping the 6V starter and adding an alternator and 12V coil. This solved the hot engine starting problems. You only had to touch the starter button, and she would go. I ran my 80SP until 2000 (45 years running and stored outside),when everything seemed to go at once: the beater wore through, and the shoe fell apart. I sold the Chrysler flathead engine and the 80SP machine joined the 80 standing outside waiting to be scrapped. I have lots of spare parts (bearing belts etc.) if anyone is interested. My location is 30 miles north of Toronto Ontario, Canada. I rebuilt a red-cab 750, which I'm now running.
 

Wildcat

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Any idea how many acres and_or hours it had on it when you parked itIJ
 

wildcat1

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Thanks for all that information. I was only 16 years old when Dad traded the 80 Special for the new 55 so I don't remember all the particulars on the 80 SP. It was quite a machine in it's day though. I do remember that it had a hand controlled ground speed that was also hooked to the foot pedal. I don't know the difference in a red cab and a grey cab 750 either.
 
 
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