Combines 8010 fuel consumption

[todd08]

I will take a stab. 1 gram = .002205lbs so 195x.002205x325kw=139.75lbs divide by 7.1 (n's_gallon of diesel)= 19.7 gal_hr. Thats assuming 325kw is close to 425hp. That's real close to a "Big Al" purple truck engine beats the big Cat by close to 5 gal_hr which today would be over $12_hr fuel savings. Al was rated at .338n_hp-hr. My little Cummins 4BT3.3 rated .353n_hp-hr.

 

[todd08]

I am really disappointed someone has not spoke out and said "Big Al" will be the next 2005 JD victim. Boy the Iveco engine does not get any praise on the Red Power Magazine site for the newer STX. I think the Speghetti clause or Speghetti and meatballs by the Denmark gentleman really sticks in my mind. I guess the Iveco does not set any engineering marvels in my own mind, but compared to an old MM energy cell diesel beats her by a long ways. What was the fuel consumption for a 930 Case diesel energy cell type head, surely someone remembers its numbers or a Fuel pump guy would know max fuel delivery in lbs_hr. For their day they were sure smooth long life diesels.

 

[CardaleBob]

Hi: If you look at Nebraska Tractor Tests results, the average fuel consumption for Diesel tractor engines is about 15 gal. per horse power hour. Some are higher, some are lower. At this rate, an engine putting out 425 HP, might burn 28.3 gals(US) per hour. At 75% load, it would be about 21 gals(US) per hour. 75% of maximum power has been the standard for continuous load for many years. CardaleBob

 

[JHEnt]

Are you saying the new STX_TJ has the 12._l Cursor engine and not a 15l CumminsIJ It was my understanding that Cummins was to install common fuel rail systems on all the QSX_QSC engines and meet Tier3.

 

[John_W]

It is going to be hard to come up with a number for gallons per hour from that number. That number is grams of fuel per Kilowatt-hour. In US numbers we use pounds per horse power hour. This is a measurement of engine efficiency and lets you compare one engine or tractor to another regardless of their engine power. To figue out gallon_hour you would have to know the power, Kilowatts in this case the engine was developing. BTW a 285 Magnum has a gram_Kw-hr number of 228. And if they are bragging about 195 it must be good and better than a Magnum 285 at full power.

 

[todd08]

By my calculations then: Magnum 285 gets .375n_hp-hr 8010 gets .321n_hp-hr. Make what you want to of the fuel consumptions. I still say its no engineering marvel, especially if the cam gear is coming loose. Reminds me of the later Ford 300 irr engines, worst ones of the bunch fiber timing gear, just a freckle shorter valves, Non adjustable rockers. Just faught that engine in comparison of the ones it replaced, just cheapened things up. But I do think these foreign companies engines are going to be more fuel effecient, just do not like the idea of having to hunt for parts and service at one outfit..controlling or worse the (disposable engine) just replace.

 

[canuck]

Fuel consumption and economy can be very misleading as HP is usually dynoed. In reality the lighter the machine the more efficient it is. large machines waste much horsepower juts moving the 30 or 40 tons across the field. This is worse in hilly or wet conditions. There is no big machine that can compare to the old smaller ones. This will be a deciding factor in a few years when fuel become real tight. The Europeans already know this

 

[shellman]

The two small STX_TJ will continue to have the 8.3 and 9.0 l CDC engines they currently have. Change will be in the fuel system from CAPS to Pegasus (high pressure common rail). The two middle models 380_430 will have the 12.1 l Cursor engine_175 amp alternator. Id'd by a left side mounted exhaust_air intake. The 500_530 retain the QSX 15l engine, but with a wider front frame to accomodate a 200mm bigger radiator. Id's quickly by 4 lights in lower front rather than 3.

 

[farmboy]

I think the 8010 was like 18 gallons an hour running 90 percent load.

 

[shaulinis]

By my calculations we used les liters per ton of grain with AFX as with AF2388