Combines 8010 vs 9860STS

red_guy

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hey soss, why don't u get some of the specs on an 8010, and compare them to a 9860, like fullspeed asked for, and you'll see that the deere is no better. i have run an 8010 beside a 9860, and the 8010 was 1-2 mph faster, consistently.
 

red_guy

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that's just because deere has to change everything, to try and catch case
 

JWK

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Have seen in the IH magazine that was in the mail this week that the Family Farm in Iowa is very happy with the 8010 combine. Check it out.
 

Soss

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1 to 2mph faster consistently. WOW WOOPEE WEE UNREAl. If you can use that extra capacity consistently, I am very happy for you. If I was undecided as to what colour combine to buy, I would be interested to hear All the pros and cons of All the combines I was choosing between, from All the other people who were trying to make a similar decision. If I wanted specs like 35600lbs_8010, 32485lbs_9860, 30697lbs_9760, 26500lbs_2388. etc etc etc I would either look them up on the net or go to some dealers and pick up a few brochures.Constructive criticism and other peoples opinions are very useful decision making tools.Colour_Brand name bashing is childish and not at all helpful.If cnh had a 7010 in production, I might have bought one but they haven't. I am sorry RED GUY that my post didn't meet your requirements or directly answer the question asked, I just thought it might be interesting to some people.
 

cnhboy

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Soss, Just a "constructive" question for you, did you look at the NH CR's at allIJ Of course, I imagine dealerships in your area may have played a role in your decision. But you mentioned you wanted something smaller than the 8010, e.g. in the CR940_960 range. A lot of those features you mentioned (on the go adjustable sieves, 3.0 bu_sec unloading rate, single hookups + 2nd pto, etc) are standard on the New Hollands. Yes the AFX_CR is like 60_40 commonality, if I remember. Anyhow, I don't mean to start anything, just curious to hear about your decision making. Are there many CRs out in AustraliaIJ Thanks, cnhboy nospam_cnhboy@hotmail.com
 

soss

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No there aren't many CR's around. I only no of 2 in Central Queensland. They both seem to run OK however. Our dealer is both Case and New Holland and he did give me a price. Guess I just wanted to stick to the single rotor axial flow concept that I'm used to.
 

cnhboy

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Ahah! So you are resistant to change! Just kidding Thanks for your response. I guess the price difference wasn't enough to justify going to 2 rotors instead of 1. Ah well, best of luck with your new machine. cnhboy, nospam_cnhboy@hotmail.com
 

red_guy

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just some clarifications 1) 8010 is 3000 lbs. heavier than 9860 2) 8010 is very comparable in price to 9860, not exactly sure of spread, but not huge 3) 8010 has coolant temp and fuel gauges, each page on the screen displays 10 different settings, and just watch JD will have a touch screen pretty quick 4) 8010 has single lever hookup, same as 9860 5) 8010 base hp is 375, with 25 hp boost, and another 40 hp boost when unloading on the go, 9860 is 375 hp, with 33 hp boost 6) 8010 has 3.0 bushel per second unloading rate, 9860 is 3.3 7) 8010 has 330 bushel grain tank, with factory extensions, 9860 is 300 bushels 8) 8010 total cleaning area is 3000 sq. in. larger than 9860 9) both 8010 and 9860 have adjust on the go sieve 10) 8010 has self leveling sieve, up to 13 degrees
 

Max9860

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In Response to the above: 1) 8010 has single point hook-up for hydraulics. 9860 has single point connection that connects hydraulic, electrical, and header latches. 2) 8010 may have more horsepower but the 8010 requires more horsepower due to the abundance of hydrostatic drives on the machine. Have you seen the clutter of lines on the back lH side of the 8010IJ CaseIH took one of the simpler combines on the market and easily made it one of the more complex machines. 3) The cleaning system is larger but in that comparison, you have to remember that CaseIH is counting the grain pan as cleaning system area where Deere doesn't include the conveyor augers under the threshing section of the Single Tine Separator. 4) The self levelling sieve may be nice but due to the way the system operates, turning a corner very sharply will cause the self-levelling system to over compensate and tilt the shoe. Deere has a new side-hill bundle for the STS shoe that is simpler yet does almost as good a job. The shoe is also a much more efficient design than the 8010. These are all items that I noticed in my own research on these two machines. Just my $.02. Chuck