Combines 8010 vs CR960 970

I'm not sure how it was quieter either. Maybe the NH was louder on the outside which translated to louder on the inside. I thought the NH seat was more comfortable too, but I think they are suppose to have the same seat. The CR was shorter too it seemed. In fact, I think it had fat tires and not duals. That would make sense why it seemed shorter. I'm not bashing the NH, I'm just stating the facts. It wasn't really a gray area. We had our hands on both machines for two weeks in the same field with all people involved agreeing on exactly the same things. Its not bias. Heck, I'm the most color blind person anyone has ever seen. Our equipment is so diverse its to a fault. Nothing is intergrated and it causes us all kinds of headaches when trying to put together data that makes sense. I'm out. later

We went thru the Grand Island combine plant a few weeks ago. Very impressive tour and they are glad to show it off to who ever stops by. It was an IH group but they happened to be testing the self leveling sieve and fan assembly of a CR before it went in the machine. The worker claimed they were much louder than the case version, could be part of the noise difference.

TR vs. 2388 I would agree. But what I've seen of the CR970 with the 22" rotors has thus far given it an edge over the 8010, even in corn. In higher moisture corn, the agitator pins become important on the NH rotors. The higher the moisture, the more pins I add for capacity. As for why many companies stick with one rotor vs. two, I'll give you the biggest reason of all that they have... cost. One rotor is cheaper, therefore they have to market it to be better. As for the drives comparison, I have no problem with CVT drives when used sensibly. The rotor drive on the 8010 is a good concept; it is just not yet reliable, and when belts can perform the same task more efficiently with easier serviceability, well I am all for it. Now the first place I would put a CVT in a combine is the ground drive system to replace the inefficient and power-robbing hydrostatic ground drive systems now used. To Farmboy, sorry for making you cringe. I feel the same way when I read some other posts; that's a good sign of strong convictions from actual experience. The wonderful thing about combines is that we can both be right in our experiences.