We ran a 1991, 1993 8460 they were conventional Claas combines painted massey colors We ran it with a cih 1688 they had about the same capacity. We put 1900hrs on the 93 with very little money spent on breakdowns. I think MF had them until 1996 then came out with the MF 8680 (C-62 GlEANER) conventional combine.