Bov, read the Gleaner page more often and you will see why we come down on bashers. I am not high strung, and very confident with my N series Gleaner that has given me less than $1500 repairs in the 5 yrs that I have owned it and most of that was because of previous owner neglect. last Fall we had green people and Massey Man stirring up trouble over on the Gleaner page. I have owned a Gleaner for almost 25 yrs now and am more than pleased with the service that the machines and dealer have given me. Prior to Gleaner I owned a Red one(IH) was not as pleased but I don't go on the Case site and bash them. Massey's are a thing of the past in my area, most 540,550,750,and850's are in the salvage yard now, WORN OUT! And anything newer isn't there, Deere, Case, Gleaner, and NH are how they are ordered. We have no MF dealers close anymore, Deere is the closest followed by Case and etc. As Illinois Gleaner and I both stated, we are Both in the same ship now, let's not make it sink!