The 8570 is a great machine. The biggest advantages of moving up to the 8780 are the cab, increased hp, 240 to 260 (285 in XP),and the constant speed rotor drive. The constant speed rotor drive keeps the rotor speed the same even when the engine pulls down. This can NOT be added to an 8570. I am not putting down 8570's, just want to make you aware of differences.