You must not get out too often. Not every single farmer who buys one is going to be satisfied with their combine they buy whether it is a 8780 or any other color. It could be because the machine is a lemon, the farmer doesn't know how to operate it and the combine's performance is unsatisfactory, or the combine wasn't suited for that farmer's field conditions. It can also be because the NH dealer offered better service then the Massey dealer or because of what the other guy said about not making payments. Open your eyes and look at the real world. I always see the MF combine on a NH dealer's lot situation with tractors, combines, air drills, balers, and swathers.