Combines 9660 Deere I run it one day

[gleanermanitoba]

Interesting, I know nothing about soybeans, cant grow them where I am, did you try it in anything else. Up here Neighbor with a 9760 and 30' honeybee says its only bigger than the 62 he traded in canola, other than that feels there is little difference in capacity. Rumor from a formed Deere salesman selling trucks now is Deere wont bring us a demo because they dont feel that they can out do our 72. Just my experience, havent gone head to head with the sts yet. Good luck with harvest.

 

[Harvester]

Refer back to my original post when you mentioned this demo was going to occur. I told you this would happen. JD is notorious for having special demo units that have seeemingly unlimited horsepower. What you were actually driving was a 9860 made out of a 9660. Trust me, if you buy an unadultered 9660, you won't cut anywhere close to 6 mph with a 30' head in beans above 45 bu_acre. As they say, that dog just won't hunt. In extremely poor beans, maybe I could see it, but then an R72 ought to cut that fast in 30 bushel_acre beans. No class 6 combine, or even class 7 that is stock will do what you saw that 9660 do with a 30' head in good beans. I have several friends who have tried JD demo units, only to be sadly disappointed when their machine shows up and doesn't measure up to their demo. Don't let them pull the wool over your eyes. I would trust very few JD dealers farther than I could throw them. Here's a better test: find a neighbor who is running a true 9660 or 9760 STS and put it up against a new R65 or R75 with the CDF rotor; then you'll see that the Gleaner is still not behind; it's just the green boys up to their old dirty tricks again. They just can't play fair, so they cheat, yes I said cheat! Don't be fooled! As for the head, the AGCO head is still built better than a Deere anyday. Yes, the JD head feeds nice. But it sure doesn't float like the Gleaner, and they've been having to weld on new heads like crazy up here because they are just cheap. The full finger auger is coming, so I've been told, so the AGCO boys are listening. The Gleaner is still the better combine, so don't fall for JD's parlor tricks. Man I hate it when they do this. Gets my blood boiling.

 

[big_orange]

I just went from an 800 to an 8000 head,it doesn't need full fingers.Tall beans, short,green or dry that head feeds great,and no raised feathering sheets.like the others said Deere is famous for the wool tricks.They must have shot a real price to convert you,neighbor just bought a new 9660,I can buy the Gleaner for lots less.

 

[cvf]

AGCO has some full fingered augers out in the field this year, testing them. My dealer was trying to get one for me but at last minute it didn't happen. Think it went to someone with more arces, so it could get a better test. Should be on the market in a year or two.

 

[JJ]

Why should AGCO be behind a year or twoIJIJ The full fingered auger is just like the tractors. Deere had the 8000's out in 1996, AGCO still doesn't have a tractor to match the 8000's and it is now 2005IJ Gleaner is a good combine, but why do they have to be behindIJ

 

[MostlyGreen]

I have NO problem running 6 mph with a 30' flex in 52 bushel beans with a 9660, nor does my neighbour with HIS 9660; - are our 2 combines "on steroids" as wellIJ like IG mentioned, the "key" is the fact that these machines feed perfectly; - horsepower is NOT the limiting factor, so a "chipped" 9660 wouldn't help matters at all during a demo.

 

[Harvester]

Feeding is important, yes, but there is a certain amount of material in 50 bushel beans and getting them threshed requires horsepower, especially up in this part of the country where the stems stay green. I would say that you likely do have a 9660 on steroids if you're able to run that kind of ground speed. It's not that unusual. I probably see more JDs through my shop that ARE chipped or tuned up than those that are not. You said it all when you said that horsepower is not your limiting factor. With a stock 9660, or any class 6, it would be in good beans with a 30' head. None of the 9750s or 9760s around here can do that with 325 hp. And if they could, they tend to run out of separation capacity first and end up spitting beans out the chopper. There are plenty of fields right now that are going to be sprouting windrows of soybeans where these guys pushed their machines too hard unless we get a killing frost soon.

 

[Mike]

My cousin just bought a 9660 and runs a 635 head. He can run as fast as my 72 with a 30 and he runs later at night because it feeds so well. I have another neighbor who put a 36' flex draper on his 2388 and he claims he is running as fast with it or faster than when he had a 30' flex head. His claim is that that it feeds so even and that is what makes a rotor shine. I had run a 9650 when it came out and I noticed the full finger head fed much better than our old 500. The 800's deep flighting helped, but it still doesn't get the material off the cutter bar until it bunches up.

 

[dakota_boy]

I suppose our 9650 sts is on steroids alsoIJ We are in 40 to 50 bushel green stems and we are moving along at 5.2 and could probably go faster. Harvester maybe you should try a 9660. I told you awhile back about my uncle and you said I was a 14 year old kid. This is staight from a gleaner guy that he would get eaten up so make all the excuses you want. lOl

 

[IowaDan]

Hey JJ. Do yourself a favor and check out the 8400 series Massey tractors, you'll like what you see. Be sure and drive one because deere can only try to copy this transmission and the Sisu engine is great.