Combines 9660 Deere I run it one day

Hey Dakota Boy. Why are you always harrassing us Gleaner GuysIJ Maybe you should get on the Deere site and help those green guys figure out why their 8.1 engines are blowing up. Yea, nothing else runs like a Deere (THANKS FOR THAT)!!!!!!!!

I do recall a rather outlandish claim that your uncle said his R72 would be beaten by an STS in wheat, and if that's true, then, again, with all due respect to your uncle, he's not much of a Gleaner guy, or even a combine guy for that matter. I've got $1000 that says no way if you let me set the Gleaner. A Gleaner simply won't be beat in wheat by just about any machine out there, especially not by an STS. Anyone who has been around both machines in wheat could tell you that. I also recall saying that the STS is at its best in corn and soybeans and the difference between it and a Gleaner are less clear-cut. However, having been around 96 and 97 50 and 60 series STS combines, I find it surprising that there is such inconsisitency. What miracle is at work allowing some of these 96s to do what 97s can'tIJ You tell me. I stand by my claim that hp is at work here.

The "miracle" you inquire about is probably a combination between the operator setting the machine and the machine itself. I had no problems keeping-up to my brother's "stock" R72 in wheat, this is, until he "hyperized" it with some of the mods we read off this forum; - now he has a slight advantage. As far as I'm concerned, an STS is at it's best in any high MOG conditions, especially where higher moisture conditions prevail. The one topic that no one (including IG) has talked about is maintanence costs. Early STS's were known for excessive wear at anywhere between 800 and 1200 hours; - major repair bills. My 9660 doesn't seem to be too bad so far (at 690 hours). Time will tell!

I agree they are finally coming along, but this is nine years later than the first 8000 series. (1996)

AGCO had electronic power shift in '93. Other than that, what is so revolutionary about a JD 8000 series tractor, other than the fact that it's green which for some is All that matters.

How many do you want me to list, I will start with electric over hydraulic controls... with time and flow controlled from cab.

Allis Chalmers introduced electrohydraulics in Gleaners way back in the early '70's. If not for Allis, Deere would still be using levers, chains, and cables. BTW, what year did Deere finally add that feature to their combinesIJ

Hey gleanermanitoba were are you from. That sales man would not be selling mack trucks would he.

JJ, You really showed your ignorance on combines with that statement. We had a 76' l gleaner with those on it. They started with that in 1972. I think Deere came with that in 1989 IG