Combines 9750 STS and riceIJ

ARricefarmer

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Id say its better than red but not as good as CTS. The only thing about the CTS is that I always found that it would lose its a** when it came to any soybeans that were a little green. If you grow anything else besides rice and beans id go with the STS.
 

ricehombre

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Do you have to slow down for feeding problems or separatingIJ We do harvest higher moisture rice from time to time and it may be that the accelerator doesn't release the high moisture folage, causing slugs and poor separation. And without a cylinder, some rice varieties may be hard to thresh in the rotor alone. Don't let me talk myself out of this now.
 

R

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I ran a 9750 in rice in TX for 3 years now. Just traded it for new. I had no trouble with feeding. Never slugged the rotor in the 3 seasons that we used it. Separation is the limiting factor. It will do a very complete job of threshing with the concaves open and the rotor run very slow. Ran the rotor on the high side rpm wise and concaves more open than recommended. Seemed to have the best capacity at those settings for us. I fertilize late in the first crop to stimulate ratoon regrowth. Straw and leaves very green and tough at harvest. Ground speed ranged anywhere from 2 to 2.5mph. loss monitors seemed to be very accurate. I chose a level that we were comfortable with and made sure the monitor stayed under that level. Varied speed accordingly. The combine is smoother than any machine I've been around. Much smoother than the 2188 I had before. I attribute the smoothness to the feed accelerator. I'm assuming that you are getting the "rice" version of the 9750. I've heard that the grain machines don't do too well in rice.
 

ricehombre

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Yes, it is the rice model. Did you run a standard or draper platform and what sizeIJ I've heard some good things about the draper platform, of course it would probably make the red machines shine to. Thanks for the honest 2-2.5 mph and not the 3-4mph exagerations Ive been hearing about.
 

R

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I ran a 925D ahead of the 9750. liked the head so much that I kept it when trading combines. I'll never cut rice with a conventional head again. Combines need a smooth flow of material to work effeciently. Going from a Case 1010 to a Deere draper was a real eye opener. Didn't know how bad that CAse head was until I ran a really good one. That POS head probably contributed much to the many problems that I had with the 2188. Put a gallon of sodium chlorate on your rice and wait a week. Or wait a week after the first hard freeze (in my part of SE TX, freezes are pretty hard to come by in August). You too can run 3 to 4 mph. I run 4 plus in second crop, but anything over 2.5 in first crop means their ain't much out there or the operator is more concerned with finishing rather than putting the crop in the bin.
 

Harvester

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Read above as well, but the STS can struggle with hard-to-thresh crop. I haven't run one in rice, but would be very reluctant to do so, given the extreme rates of wear inside the combine in other, less abrasive crops. I'd stay CTS or for rotaries, the MF does the best job in rice of any rotors I've seen. Have also heard the lexion can do quite well.
 

JWK

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Just like to know what is better about the JD header compared to the 1010 or 1020 header. Thanks for your input JWK
 

R

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I've only run the 1010 Case heads, never a 1020. I've been around a Deere rigid head (925R),but I've only run a Deere 925 draper. The main difference that I noticed between the 1010 and the 925R was the distance of the cutterbar relative to the table auger. The case cutterbar is several inches farther forward compared to the deere. If you're cutting an uneven or lodged crop, it allows material to bunch up and feed unevenly. Damp conditions make it much worse. As long as crop is pushing crop to the auger, it feeds evenly. That's not the case in a lodged or tangled crop. local Case dealer here will surgically move the cutter bar back 4 inches on request. I've seen him do it to several brand new heads.I think that they charge around $4K to do it. He says it makes quite a difference.