in my area in 04 case dealer sold 3 8010's. jd dealer sold 1 9860. in 05 so far 0 8010's 0 9860's. two of the 04 8010's were traded off, one for cat and one for 9760sts. as for price diferance the 9860 was 15,000.00 higher. as for in the field diferance , havn't cut with a 9860 but cut a lot with a 9760. our dealer orders 9760's equiped the same as 9860's just differant moter,and 14,000.00 cheaper. the 9760 was very comparable to the 8010 but a lot more reliable, a lot less waistful, and a lot easier to set. i'm not bashing red binders at all, had 7 differant red binders befor the 8010, all good machines, but the 8010 will stick in my krowl for a long time. looking forward to the 05 wheat harvest so we can run that 9760.