Combines A question for tbran

Well, they are not. They were built as you know in Coldwater after the McConnel _ MF heritage. It was a component tractor with proven good engines ( option of Detroit or Cummins on first units),trans and hydraulics. There were some quality issues on the first ones (cab fit and nuts and bolts etc.) and it was not a high tech tractor but the price reflected the basic nature. IF it had been offered with a powershift transmission the demand for an economical basic power unit would still have it in production in my opinion. But that's just my opinion. I am not the one to ask on these units as to details. I am sure some others have better input.

Thanks for the quick reply, tbran! I guess I won't be buying one of these units, new or used. I was down to either a Versatile or AGCOSTAR, purely on price. The 4WD Masseys seemed like good units; - why can't AGCO engineer and build a good 4WD tractor. I think this reflects very poorly on AGCO.

I think Challenger has something in the works to take care of the 4WD issue.

How do you think us dealers feelIJ Our Agcostars have been good to us and our custumers. I can't say what the plans were or are but I do no the CIH FNH merger or buyout made a difference. The big AGCO guys were up to the Ford New Holland Versatile plant wheeling and dealing as they have been at the CIH Steiger plant also since Fiat was in the deep need to raise cash. Mix whatever kind of a deal they made with Cat for the Challenger deal and a terrible plane crash into the mess and what do you getIJ Thanks for the consideration and I'm sure there is still something in the works for a large 4WD.

Hey I realize that Agco didnt build a powershift and there was probably demand for that type of tractor, but to tell the truth we have a 8360 Agcostar and its a great tractor, it has great hydraulics and if you looking for a tractor for brute power, durable, lightweight its a good choice even if they arent making them now. They are equivilant to the steigers or versatiles of the day only they arent compaction masters because they dont have unnecceasary things like 1_4 inch steel fenders. They are good tractors and they are component machines in which the engine, trans, boggeys, are well proven to be durable. We havent had a bit of problems with ours in 2500 hrs, it just runs like a top

Are there ANY new AGCOSTARS still out there, sitting on some dealers lotIJ I was interested in the smaller unit (I think its the 8360). Do you think AGCO discontinued the AGCOSTAR, merely on account of the fact that they didn't seemingly have an appropriate facility to move it to since Coldwater closedIJ I think AGCO should seriously rethink it's 4WD tractor strategy; - I think the AGCOSTAR's and older White 4-210's would sell even to this day! My 4-210 was tough to beat, it was a low profile unit and was excellent in row-crop applications.

I have had the pleasure of having owned a 4880 MF and currently own an Agcostrar 8360. My 8360 is in my opinion one nice tractor. It is simple it drives very well, better than the 4880, lighter steering responce, has excellent visiblity, and the hydraulics are as good or better than anyones. The 855 Cummins is very economical it seems for the loads I'm pulling, 30ft field cultivator with Unverferth rolling harrow II, in the fall I'm using a 7 shank Brent CPC. I bought it in'97 and have had one hydraulic line fail. I would have liked one power shift like the old Olivers, but was told it would have been to expensive, but with the 855 it would have made starting underload a little easier. Just an old man's .02 DCW SCMI.

I didn't ask sales but doubt you can still find one when there was just a couple left about a year more ago. I don't know if they officially have discontinued the AGCOSTAR. I think they full planed on getting production going again at another one of their plants before they used up built up supply. They were quickly refining the base MF 4WD until boom they were closing the plant. Our main problem was driveline vibration in turns and premature failure of front top drive ujoints on 8360s. After fooling around a couple years with the way AGCO was telling use to do it we threw away the books. We then shimmed front drive axle down by 3_4" so we could lower transmision mount by the same and boom problem gone. Bell housing just cleared differential housing thus driveshaft could not be lined up like a driveshaft needs to be. Engineering probably still won't approve that but!!!!! Dropbox taller or something on the 8425s so we didn't see the same problem. I don't remember hearing about your R62 so I sure hope it worked good for you. Take care

I agree with the last posting. We have all different color tractors and the best ones we feel as far as simple and dependable go to the White's and the Fords. The 4-150 has about 5,200 hours on it and is great for light work. The 4-210's are numerous in this area and they are the best tractor money can buy as far as I'm concerned. I told them (Agco)to go to the White tractor platform instead of that Massey! Nothing against Massey, but White was way ahead of it's time! The design has no drop boxes, power to size and weight ratio is unbelievable, doesn't pack the ground down like the neighbors, and is balanced 50_50 when pulling! Also you can row crop, pto, and 3-point! We plan on keeping ours for a long time!

I found this new AGCOSTAR sitting on a lot. Maybe it's sold and they havn't updated thier website I don't know. Just thought it'd pass this along. Take care, Nathan