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[tbran]

Well there is still an Allis-Chalmers Co. They are in the oil business and you can find some info in the net on them. Ask over a 'unofficial allis' site. At the inception of AGCO, there was an honest offer to try to buy the name "A-C". Allis Chalmers wanted a cool million bucks to relenquish the name and trademark. At that time it was not affordable. The name was something they wanted to tie into a past heritage for name regcognition. Was it worth the priceIJ That will be debated forever. What is unforgivable was the fact that Deutz destroyed tooling for the 8000 series tractors. Now, lets get to reality; the older I get the more I love to live in the past. That gives me warm fuzzies remembering the days I walked around wearing the AC logo on almost everything and receiving the AC paycheck signed by Harry C lusk. Those days were not without the pent up prejudices of the customers. If one was to break out of the low tractor market share one needed a fresh face. Deutz cetainly was not the image. Also keep in mind that AGCO or AC is or was not a machine spitting out products making analytical decisions. It was people just like us. (some of those folks were not as smart as you think) Today we have AGCO; like it or not the saviour of all those brands you see on the corp nameplate. Almost every company they bought was headed for extiction - even MF. Todays management, even as much as I fight with them, is BETTER than AC's were as a whole. At least I _ you can TAlK to these guys from top to bottom even if we don't like the answers sometimes. There is usually a reason for most decisions and they have changed some bad ones they have made. As to any change, AGCO has spent Hundreds Millions to come to the place they are now. From the smallest 15hp to 225 hp it is the longest, most complete line of orange tractors ever assembled in the history of orange paint. It is the best we have had and will be the best chance for preservation of the heritage through market share increase that there is or has been. It ain't perfect but at least it rivals the no. 1 guys line up of products for the first time in history, and it is stable now that AGCO has it's own engine plant which can build for the forst time an engine for every product it sells.

 

[big_orange]

I would love to see the AC logo back,but in reality its just a logo.I thought Deutz was the worse thing that ever happened to orange paint.Agco is trying to reverse the damage and I think doing a good job.My combines have always been Gleaners,last two tractors are Agco's,my opinion,in 5 years or so Agco will be a major, major player in the market.

 

[Guy_C]

Agco did not save Massey,Victor Rice who was CEO of Varity Corp put Agco on the map by selling Massey.Give me a break.

 

[Illinois_Gleaner]

Hey Guy Cannon give it up Agco bought them out or they would have been GONE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Your just lucky someone else didnt buy them or you wouldnt even be able to get one it would have been there color with there name on it.I suppose you think the Massey Combines are there developement because they say Massey. They havent made a Massey design for what now 15 yearsIJIJIJIJIJIJIJIJIJ Have a good one, Illinois Gleaner PS. we have argued this point enough why would you start this again.

 

[hv_user]

AGCO has done a lot since 1990 and are doing a good job with all the brands.To start a company 13 years ago and be were they are today is hard to believe.The way I see it they bought market share a little at a time. And improved those products to get more market share. At the same time building these products in the same factories making it very efficient.When they bought Massey Ferguson it made them a world wide company.In other parts of the world Massey was still very strong.I see big things for AGCO in the years ahead.

 

[Kaye2]

I am greatful for many things AGCO. 1: Current line of Gleaners and repair parts for old stuff like mine. 2:Current line of orange tractors and repair parts for past models 3:Foresight and wise management to make all this possible. 4:The apparent goal of making a profitable full line company in an age where they seem to be struggling to do so. I hope I was not misunderstood I feel AGCO should be applauded. I meant no disrespect to Massey loyalists either, Isn't Massey the largest selling worldwide brandIJ I said this to my Green salesman the other day and he looked at me like I was nuts. I understand now about why the AC name and trademark were not attainable, which was my biggest question. I sure do wish Deutz would have stored the 8000 series tooling, those were sweet! I am glad that AGCO mgt. paid attention to heritage as much as they did and I also feel in the coming years they will keep growing. Thanks for the replies fellas, Nick

 

[tbran]

Massey did put AGCO on the global map. Worldwide in one swoop. BUT the FACT is Massey was GOING to be sold. Either as a whole or piecemeal. It was going down. According to a founder of AGCO if they had not been successful in the bid Massey would have fragmented and or been absorbed into one of a few European Farm Equip companies who were also in the bidding .

 

[Tim_nj]

As I see it, MF wouldn't be around without AGCO, and AGCO wouldn't be around without MF.

 

[bigj]

Check that, the former 8700 and current 9000 series MF combines are a direct descendant of the old MF rotary design with a few Agco goodies added on.

 

[MF35]

Massey would not have been gone. After Conrad Black, the idiot bankrupt Massey Ferguson, the Canadian Government bailed them out. We would have not let this legend Die!! there is still alot Pride up here because of MF's deep Canadian roots. (Daniel Massey, Alanson Harris were Canadian, and Harry Ferguson is from UK!!) Through all of that, with dealerships disappearing, they were and still are THE NUMBER ONE SEllING TRACTOR IN THE WORlD, and that will not change PERIOD!! As for the combines, MF sold them to White, then ClAAS bought them. The New combines are MF based with some GlEANER Agco goodies on them!! Thank you!!