I don't know the true incidence in either case. However, the 8010 won't be a true production combine untill this year. That will tell the tale. It's still a known, serious problem on the StraightThroughSeeders. I haven't heard of any rear axles falling out from under the 8010's though, unlike some others, or grain tanks hitting the cab, hmmm, now who could that beIJ Chads