Combines Anyone running a Gleaner with Geringholf corn head IJ

[RamRod]

My opinoins from 5 years running an 8-22 RD on R72. Best to have the heavy var. driven front sheave setup, and the double "C" belt drive behind that. Then, if you really push it, you can break off front jack shaft left end that carries the front var. sheave. I then put a bearing support on left side of the sheave (next to spline coupler(used a JD disc flangette and bearing-greasable). Total fix. Then, I put a 600 pound 4" liquid filled pressure gauge in cab that tees into the variable header drive hydraulic line so I could read an indication of load_torque on the drive. Working quite hard, can get up to 350 to 400 pound readout at which time I would estimate you are putting out 150 to 175 HP to the head. A standard head will read about 200 pounds. The header drive has been tested with dyno and can put out a remarkable 185 HP before destructing itself. Hope this helps to understand what can happen, and how to beef up, and enjoy the benefits of the Roto Disc head.

 

[NDDan]

Any chance varible is getting wetIJ If so you may need to shield it. Heavier varibles started in '98. Heavy varible will surely handle more torque but still needs to be greased at both locations very regular. Very similar setup to cylinder varible which people are more likely to keep greased enough. If sliding hub or cams have been allowed to run to dry at one time it will need some rebuilding. Sliding sheave needs approx .006 clearance to inner hub to expect it to work proper and not continue to wobble out. Nut under splined shaft needs proper torque also to build a solid assembly and prevent shaft breakage. Ramrods external bearing will surely stiffen assembly for chopping corn heads. Good luck

 

[GreaTOne_65]

Been there done that, my suggestion, find a sucker and give him that losey Gerringhoff head. I blew up one drive belt after less than a hundred acres, then the inner bearing on the upper drive went, didn't take a sledge hammer to convince me I didn't need a Gerringhoff. Changed to a Hugger, and I'd never again subject my combine to the abuse of a Gerringhoff head. My 62 struggled at 2.5 to 3.0 mph with the Gerringhoff, with the Hugger, there is no limit. Yes, I bought a stalk chopper, a 6 row Hiniker, which I run with a 2-135, and in 4 gear direct she knows it's back there, and you want to subject your combine to that kind of griefIJ Not me man, a combine was designed to thrash grain, save yourself the grief! Just how I fixed my problem with a Gerringhoff (best corn wasting buck rake on the market).

 

[the_big_green_machine]

man you sound like a wuss. You give up that easy in every venture you tryIJIJIJIJIJ Around here Geringhoff is taking over and I see them on all the colors from Cat to Gleaner and the heads are selling themselves now.

 

[GreaTOne_65]

Well sir, Mr. Green Machine, of all the machines not, I repeat NOT to run a Gerringhoff head on is a Big Green One, it costs between $2500 to $2700. to repair the header reverser on the Big Green! I have a brother that ran his Gerringhoff on his Big Green, and splattered 7 of those reversers in one season, his remedyIJ Trade the combine!!lOl!! But kept that losey head. This year he put a New Holland head on it, go figure!IJ But to call me a wuss, I or my son ran that worthless piece of junk for 4 yrs. I have ran a combine before you were born, I KNOW COMBINES, SONNY-BOY! And if I say it's JUNK! IT'S JUNK!!

 

[the_big_green_machine]

Sounds like the dealer that sold you the heads didn't know what he was doing then. If did he would have informed you that a direct drive must be installed on your machines to avoid the troubles that you are complaining about. We have run one for 4 years now and haven't had a lick of trouble. And by the way running a combine for however many years doesn't mean you know how to make them work. Which is pretty obvious by your statements here.

 

[GreaTOne_65]

Obviously you are one of those people who think the way to run a combine is get in turn the radio on and let'er fly. I can guarntee if you would pay attention, really pay attention to what that head is doing you would change your attitude. The Gerringhoff head leaves nearly a third of the corn in the field, if you can afford to lose that much good for you, I can't! 1. The Gerringhoff head leaves every ear of corn that have broken over to the right. 2. If you run the head fast enough to do a decent job of chopping the ears fly out and over the dividers. 3. If the corn gets blown down, your completely out of luck because all it will do is push(buckrake). You obviously have run nothing but perfect corn. last year my dear brother had to dig his old Gleaner head out of the junk to finish his corn because the Gerringhoff wouldn't run it. Two years ago his soybean fields looked more like corn fields because of all the corn he left out there. Those are the facts, SONNY-BOY!

 

[MinnR62]

I am not going to get between you two's conversation here, but I have to think you got a lemon buddy or a poor dealer. The first comment our grain cart operator said this year after a day with our new Geringhoff corn head was "where are all the ears of corn or shelled corn I used to see with the Gleaner hugger head IJ" There is NOTHING on the ground with our Gerhinghoff corn head. I know Geringhoff switched to GVl plastic snoots because they are less dense plastic and so less ear bounce, and so I would have to say I could count the ears that bounce out of the head on an 80 acre field on one hand. There is vertually nothing that leaves that head. It is a fantastic head and would buy another one in a heartbeat. There are many many Geringhoff corn heads around our area, I have not heard one person complain about the items you listed above. Have a good day.

 

[GreaTOne_65]

Not to worry MinnR62, I know what I saw and experienced with the Geringhoff head. The one thing I should probably have clarified is the heads we had were the ones with the single rotor with the plate on the other side with the knives mounted on it. My observation was that with out having another rotor on the opposite side it has no chance of picking up stalks that lay to the right, which by the way are left there because the stalk is cut off before it has a chance to pick it up. Another problem was the field had to be picked in lands, because the chopped stalks were blown to the left and if you went back and forth, one outside row ended up with double the amount of stalks in it and it plugged in the plow, and created muskrat houses behind the chisel plow. Now with all that said, if your happy with your Geringhoff, I'm happy for you, but your going to have to pry my Hugger head out of my cold dead hands to get me to go back to anything else! lOl!!