Why is it that the topic of COMBINES always gets put out the window for these childish stupid arguments what have no need to be here, I sure give Marvin lots of credit for letting the nonsense go on I guess we should be greatfull that he is so busy with ideas to make combines perform better then looking over all these lame arguments what are pointless. If you are so proud of Deer who does make great equipment you should go to work for them promoting their equipment. But first you need to find out what truck is better so you can drive it around, so what is the best Dodge, Chevy, or Ford IJ You probably have the answer for thatIJ Anyhow why cant the combine talk show stay combine related to be useful for others instead of childish arguments what mean absolutly NOTHING AT All............