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[Forever_Red]

Farmboy, how can you say a 8010 can't handle a 16 row corn hdIJ If a smaller 9750 can,it would be a given for an 8010, other than the big lexion, who builds a bigger machineIJ Come on--lets give the 'big red one' some credit. My $.02 worth.

 

[farmboy]

If it could handle a 16 row, which it can't because of horsepower, why would you run oneIJ A twelve row at 5 mph hour is all it can handle. Trust me, I'm all about going bigger, but whats really the difference if you can go 5 mph hour with a 12 row or 3.6 with a 16 rowIJ Same throughput. Its only going to do so many bushels per hour. The cleaning system will only handle 4,000 per hour maximum. Which is a heck of a lot. I guess if your only cutting 100 bu corn a person could probably go to a 24 row head. The feeder house is beefy enough to handle a bigger head.

 

[shellman]

Check your figures again: 8010 is designed for 5500 per hour and have seen some in field over 5000 when you could keep the grain away. Also, 200+ dry corn, 12 row head, nearly 6 mph, and only 65% power consumtion on engine. Most power complaints are due to not having the machine set right.

 

[Mav]

Actually, a 12-row head operated at 5.0 mph would be equivalent to a 16-row head operated at 3.75 mphnot much difference though. I could see justification of a 16-row head to keep travel speed below 5.5 mph (my comfort limit). But, more importantly, I think one needs to size the header in relation to how it fits into their operation. This would require taking several factors into consideration: e.g. crop yields, grain tank size, grain truck_cart size, length of fields, combine capacity, unloading rate, etc.

 

[Unit_2]

If the 8010 cleaning system can only handle 4000 bu per hour something is wrong. last fall I consistantly put 3500 BPH through my 2388s.

 

[farmboy]

I guess our experience with rotory combines isn't as good as yours. You obviously are much more skilled. We have only been running red combines for 30 years. We could run that much throughput for a minute and then it would crap yellow out the back. Consistanly, doing a good job, 4,000 was maxed out at 16.5-18.0 moisture corn. It ran pretty smoothly at that 80 percent 3,600 bushel mark on the computer. But whenever we started to push it above that, things went to crap. I have neighbors telling us how we were doing it all wrong too. This is nothing new. We didn't get the combine set right. Yeah, neither did the Case Dealer. I guess if we could of kept the piece of junk going long enough in a single day we could tried to fine tune it a little. We were cutting with some neighbors who are red combine people. Having that thing broke down at the end of the field all the time was extremely embarrassing. Our 2388 with 2,000 hours cut more corn than that 8010 did this last year. We didn't even go through our 2388 cause we had traded it off. They brought it back out so we could get our harvest somewhat under control. There are always people out there telling us how we are idiots and that we just aren't doing it right. Well, I would of invited you out to run that combine, and if you could of got that many bushels per hour out of her, I would of gladly bought you a cola of your choice. We could of picked that cola up on one of our several daily trips to the local Case dealer to pick up parts; if they had them in stock, for our 8010 or the 2388. It took me quite awhile to look up the posts I have left on this board about the 8010. Reliving the harvest through my posts was agonizing to say the least. I'm going out on a limb and saying that people in general were not happy with this combine. They are picking up all the 8010's and taking them back to the factory for a a a reason, and its not because they cut corn like they are suppose too. Its because they have some severe problems they are going to address. They will address these problems and bring our combine back to us. If corrected we will be very happy, if not fixed, I will personally redeliver this combine to Case and probably buy a Cat.

 

[Case_Farmer]

IM still lost on his first email An 8010 can't handle a 8 or 16 row corn headIJIJIJ why can't it handle an 8IJ Just curious.

 

[farmboy]

It could handle it, it could handle a 6 row or a four row too. It would be hard to keep the rotor full.

 

[Forever_Red]

There is a lot more hp used in the propulsion of a combine through the field than in the threshing and seperating of the crop, esp the big heavy machines. So in slowing your travel speed you free up hp. that you didn't know you had. Corn is not a hard threshing crop.You can't tell me that going slower won't get more corn out of the field, more chance to get the down stalks, less ears flying around. It gives the head time to do its job. I'm saying 4 mph with a larger hd rather than 6 mph with a smaller one. It is also easier for the grain carts to keep up. The update on the 8010 sieves to a more agressive motion will allow the cleaning system more capacity, when its clean grain elevator can move 6000+ bph, the cleaning system has to be there also. We have done this (run slower) with a 2388 and 12 row hd vs an 8 row hd.

 

[Case_Farmer]

Yeah i figured id like to see one with a 4 row lol.... Does case plan on makeing a 16 row anytime soonIJ All ive seen is the CAT one. In Magazines and such Just curious