in regards to your comments, it is obvious that you are so blinded by the color green that you don' even notice the most basic of combine designs. the only reason that john deere has the lion's share of the conventional market is because massey ferguson handed it to them when they stopped producing the 850 and 860 combine 12 years ago. It is funny, you claim that john deere copies no manufacturer, but is obvious that john deere has copied mf combines for decades. it is no small coincidence that the 20 series jd combines were strikingly similiar to the 860 combine. even after 12 years of not producing the 860 deere is still trying to integrate the finer points of the 860 into the 9000 series. I hope that you someday realize that just because other people can think for themselves and not buy a jd that you are not smarter than them.