Combines Bison Rotor tips

dumfrmr

Guest
How hard does your wheat thrashIJ I had problems with white caps in hard thrashing wheat when I switched to Bison. You only have four thrashing units per rev on Bison and eight on other rotors.
 

Rolf

Guest
Ok that "should be" ok! As most of out current wheats are no to bad to knock out! Use filler plates for some crops now, so we can play around with that. Thanks for the info didn't realize that there is only four sets of bars to knock stuff out. Hopefully the rotor will turn up sometime in the next week! Rolf
 

NDDan

Guest
First the normal stuff like zero it up to concave and set the gauges if needed. Check the seperator pins to see they are 1_2" from helicals or 1" from cage surface. I'd suggest to start with seperator pins retracted approx 30 degrees from being pointed straight at discharge bearing. As rotor turns the pins should work with helicals to keep material moving. You don't want pins to far from cage or helicals so if you adjust the angle you should double check clearance. We're finding an important key to prevent rotor loss is the distance to seperating pins. As dumfrmr pointed out he would like to see better thresh in very hard to knock out wheat. He is not the only one pointing this out in a condition or variety they got into. Growing conditions, acts of mother nature, or variety can hand you this delema. Unforturnatly none of these Bisons were able to run next to a standard Gleaner eight bar or any aftermarket rotor to make a comparison. I totally trust their experience with the job they are used to doing so I only lightly mention how are the other colors doing. They are usually quick to point out they would not be satisfied with how the others are doing. Anyway I would suggest you are prepaired with a couple extra concave filler bars and you know how to snug up the front of concave. Might want to cut a washer out from between cylinder varible sheaves if your not cracking wheat but need better thresh than what normal adjustments will do for you. Make sure chopper hammers are in good shape to keep material pulled away from cylinder and belt is tight and in good shape. Best of luck
 

Rolf

Guest
Thanks Dan Only just discovered your post after I had email you! Will follow your advice carefully, and report back here after we have some harvest off, in lentils first. Rolf
 

snipe

Guest
Rolf I am also looking to buy a new rotor or modify my original rotor. what type of lentils do you grow [red or large greens] what conditions are you plants in at harvest timeIJ do you grow chick peasIJ
 

Rolf

Guest
We grow mainly Red lentils, they mostly harvested when pods are ripe, which can and does leave the vine green! were about 10 days away from getting started in lentils or wheat. (Were setting up now to strart lentils first) locals have started Barley around us and getting surprisingly good yields! 40 to 60 bushels and acre on 210 mm of GSR. (Naturally we aren't growing any Barley this year!!) Have been talking to Our local AGCO dealer who's really big on the CDF rotors! Hope to compare the CDF, Standard and Bison in Wheat this season! But lentils is where I'm sure the Bison will really shine. Always had split trouble with our standard rotor in lentils and until we got sweeps in last years it was a nightmare to get going with green vine! other colours have always been just that much better in green pulse crops. Im hoping we can call the Bison R62 "Grain Feed Bison" Rolf
 

snipe

Guest
your conditions sound alot like ours in Saskatchewan but we grow mostly large greens which can be very hard to thresh and seperate do to green stems and soft pods. your stock rotor has Dans sweepsIJ I will be looking foward to your post after harvest. have a good harvest.
 

Rolf

Guest
Yer we have Dan Design of sweeps as ROM is the Steel Engineer around here and he built them to Dans Specs. Bison Will be here Tonight, waiting on new Chopper blades before we put rotor in!! AGCO Chopper blade Kits here is a RIP OFF!!!! US$141 for a set of two blades and hardware!!!! you need 6 sets $800-900 US to kit out your chopper with new blades!! lowen are suppling us with their kit and its back around $350-400 US! Rolf
 

snipe

Guest
a brand new Rodondo fine cut chopper is 1300.00 cdn dollars and looks to be a lot better built than the gleaner fine cut chopper.