Combines bought R62 do I need to hyper

[Ed_Boysun]

From what I can gather, all of the hyper-mods make things go through much smoother and take a load off things. For no more bother than it is to extend the helical, extend the discharge bars, and remove a few reverse bars, why wouldn't you want to do it. It will take more load off the cyl drive and the engine and should reduce fuel usage at the same time. Sounds like a no-brainer to me. Ed in Montana

 

[R_O_M]

"Hyperise" as per Hyper mods! There is no argument! Throughput goes up! losses are no worse and will probably go down! The only qualification is that we believe there may be small but significant differences between the best rotor configuration for corn and etc and the best rotor configuration for small grains, particularly for Australian small grains. We are still playing and learning.

 

[Bill]

Why oh why do we have to ACCEPT lossesIJ When I put something in a combine I want it staying in the combine!! This is the reason I am looking at moving my 1996 R52. I am sick of the losses even though it has been partially hyperized. Yes it takes less power and you could put more through it but I'm sick of putting the GRAIN right through it. I don't know if CIH or Deere are any better but I for one am gonna try. I guess silver seeder is somewhat true.

 

[Brian]

Chances are good that you have plenty of other things you can do with your time and effort on your farm that will give you a better return than modifying for the conditions and machine as you describe. Someday go ahead and put in some extended cylinder bars and maybe a helical into discharge but I pretty much agree with your dealer in this case.

 

[Illinois_Gleaner]

Bill, Where are your lossesIJHow much are theyIJ I have stock gleaners and loss doenst seem to be a problemIJ Just wandering I guess. Illinois Gleaner

 

[Silver_Bullet]

Have to agree with Illinois Gleaner about the losses. That just doesn'r seem to be a problem. And you don't have to spend a lot of time fine tuning the machine to keep losses down next to nothing. They're pretty forgiving.

 

[NDDan]

Call it hyper or call it up to date with currant machines. The three most important things on a '96 R62 no matter what crop, conditions, or size of header is feeder shocks, feeder filler for third helical extention, and extend cylinder bars to discharge. With feeder shocks we leave tention drum in grain position for all crops. Feeder shocks dramatically reduced feeding problems and breakage no matter what flow you were tring to put threw. Feeder shocks will not fix bunching that starts at header soooooo. Third helical from gearbox handles alot of straw so extending it over top left corner of feeder opening reduces load on feeder, rock door, and left side of concave no matter how heavy you are tring to feed it. Discharge paddles in combination with helicals will not move straw the last few inches toward discharge very well at all so I would suggest to get them cylinder bars extended so you have the rasp to work in combination with helical to move the straw. Straw can bottleneck at that area no matter how hard you are tring to feed it. I've seen what can happen when things don't flow so I would get her tuned now rather than later. Don't worry about loss after doing them things for it will be very likely be less when things flow smoothly. If you should have loss you can still easily try the Gleaner reverse bar trick or leave some forward bars out or fasten a stationary rasp bar ect. I can't imagine there is anyone that has removed feeder shocks, third helical extention, or extended bars to control crop loss. I don't know if it is the same in your area but I know I would have a hard time counting all the guys that would of switched away from Gleaner if we didn't start a certain amount of so called hyperizing. Crop loss never bothered me at first for I knew how hard it was for some farmers to keep there fields from turning green after blowing threw with there big conventionals. Ends up loss rarely if ever went up even though throughput greatly increased. We're not talking big bucks either. Good luck

 

[leroy]

I also have had alot of trouble with grain loss. Especially in wheat. There is always some grain going over the rotor in wheat. Shoe loss is nil Have played with separator grate and continually adjusting concave to try to slow the loss down. I did not have any reverse bars at discharge end. Am going to try that next year. I have a 97 R52 and am definitely not impressed. It was worst in wet wheat, i.e. over18%. It was also a challenge in dry corn. Had to add 2 reverse bars at discharge end and that helped. I am going to leave them in all year. In soybeans I could do an excellent job. In wheat, some of the grain is on the ground under the windrow, but there is always a bunch in the straw. it is threshed but not separated, and shows up when you bale the straw.

 

[Hog_Man]

I think mine has reverse bars in it I will check as soon as the weather moderates so I can get it out of the back of the shed into the light. It seemed to work fine in dry corn last fall. My dealer says if I have trouble with corn out back through rotor bolt in a bar on bottom of cage, but must remove for beans.

 

[Bill]

I also only have problems in corn and wheat. I am happy cutting soybeans (except for the 500 header) as there is very very little rotor loss. I have the helical extended over the feeder; 2 bars from F2 installed in bottom of cage; extended bars at discharge and 2 reverse bars installed. It is very embarassing to say the least when a landlord comes out and rides with me as I'm harvesting corn and you can see shelled corn on the ground in the unshelled rows to the side of the combine where the spreader has thrown it as it comes through the rotor. They ride along and don't say anything but who knows what they are thinking when they see that! I ran an 8900 White combine before this 1996 R 52 and I never saw corn on the ground like this. Ditto for wheat. It may not be a lot but it sure looks awful. I have tried every speed and concave opening for 6 years and am still not happy. My dealer says all the R 52's are this way and there is not near the trouble with the 62's because of the larger and longer rotor. Unfortunately I do not have the acres or the cash to justify the larger machine. I am going to give this machine one more year as I will be bringing it into the shop in the next couple of weeks and pulling the rotor to see if there is anything else in there that I can do to eliminate the losses. If not I'll have to bite the bullet and try another brand. So if anyone has any suggestions for me as to what I should try this time I certainly am willing to listen and to try pretty much anything. Other than these rotor losses I love running the machine because it hasn't caused me a bit of trouble otherwise. Heres hoping my landlords will all stick with me till I come up with a solution.