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This may be just a rumor, but I heard that the STS was specifically designed to solve the problems that axial flows have. I'm not very familiar with AFs so I don't know what kind of problems they might have, but that is just what I heard. Proto

Just got back from the US custom harvester meeting an hour ago. All companies were there. New Holland showed a quick picture of their new generation and assured the CASE will continue, too. From the CASE managers I could hear that their new generation might be for sale in 2002 built in Grand Island, NE on the same chassis like the NH.

The STS has a ways to go yet be for it is as good as a red one

I have no idea of market share in the US. but here in Oz, the only problem that Axial Flows have is that they out sell the green machines 10 to 1. Of course JD had to copy the concept they had been running down for years. Old technology eventually does not sell.

While I haven't ran one, I have looked them over pretty good. For one they do appear to be built pretty heavy, and that is a problem for them, as the 9750 STS have problems being transported due to their weight. Also when you do slug the rotor on them, you cannot reverse them with much success, as their concaves and grates are three different diameters. If you try, you can break the tines off on the back end of the rotor. So it is safe to say they have their problems too. My observations, Todd I would like to run one though.

It's not PR. The 9750sts won't cut the wheat much faster because the cutterbar won't allow it to go any faster, but it will NEVER bog down. That's fact, not PR, and in corn, it will handle a 12-row head like it's not even there. The 9750sts is a class 7 combine, the 2188_2388 are class 6 combines (like a 9650sts). There is a difference in the two, but headers can limit what they can do.

Been through both combines. Only similarity is that they are both rotors. Deere has nothing "red" in them. It's a completely different concept. In reply to a couple of other responses later in this segment, Deere did go in and "fix" what was wrong with an AF. You set it once and NEVER have to change it like you do the AF in the morning and night when the beans get wet. It would be difficult to back out a slug in a Deere though because of the way it's built, but here's the thing...the can NOT be slugged. I think you'll see the multiple-stage (or whatever they call it) concaves on everybody's design here pretty soon. Spent a lot of time in both machines.

With the 9750 extra hp it had better do something.

Unfortunately, NH is a little stubborn from what I have heard. About the only "IH" going into the new generation is the rotor, concaves_grates, and the transition area. From my sources, the machine will be limited by the use of NH's cleaning system. In effect, field tests have shown that the rotor can put down more than the chaffers and sieves can handle. On the other hand, the rest of the machine seems to be very well built and the cab is pretty good. Wonder who's electronics and GPS system will be used. Case and Ag leader have worked very well together to provide a very good system.

When Case tested a 9750STS in Corn (200+bu),they were able to squeeze 5500+ Bu. out in one hour. Though they had one of their own prototypes that could pass 6000 Bu.