Combines Cat Agco deal Claas have a homeIJ

If you say they are junk I beleive you. I sure do not want Gleaner to go bad they are such a fine quality machine. I would not like it if they joined the Gleaner designs with some pile of junk no matter what brand it is, Junk is Junk and there is nothing anybody can do about it.

I talked to a machinerylink.com rep today and he told me they were adding 20to25 machines to there fleet this year. they had half cat half deer last year and was going to split there new machines this way to but with the cat_agco developments have backed out of the cat purchases.

It was in the 80 s when Massey needed combines for Nort America and they broke a deal with Claas and startet selling the 8450 and 8460

Aren't you aware that this collusion goes back further in historyIJ In the late '90's, AGCO was using Claas for its conv. Gleaners and Masseys until the same was reserrected in North America. Massey-Ferguson had a joint venture with the Claas conventionals just before they became AGCO property. So what's the big deal about ClaasIJ A lot of technology has come on since the Ford days.

If anyone was at the 2001 Farm Progress Show and saw the combine corn side-by-side field demos, the difference in the capacities of the combines really was apparent. Both the STS Deere and the 485 lexion with 12 row heads were moving at good ground speeds.(4-5mph.) The Gleaner R-72 with 12 row head had everything that it could handle at 2.5 mph. Same with the Massey rotary with a 8 row head.The Massey sounded like the engine was at full power. The Case rotary 2388 was going a good ground speed, but only had a 8 row head. Same with the New Holland. Both the Cat and the Deere were the best and fairly equal for that day. Iwas at the show on Wednesday. Did anyone else that was there come to the same conclusions as I didIJ

I was there and it was true that the R72 was going somewhat slower but it also was doing by far the best job It was fun that day because we got to get right on the car and deere reps the cat reps said(they were ashamed at the amount of corn on the groung) that was there words to us. the deere boys where alot funner because they wanted to argue but the day we where their the 2388 and R72 did the best but they where not as fast . I wondered with no loss why not a little more ground speedIJ Tim

The shame of it is that Gleaner goes to a show with what I am sure is a stock machine to demo, and each of us who uses this website wouldn't think of running our machines set up that way! Anyone from Georgia listeningIJIJIJ The previous posts have a point as to what they saw at the farm show, but you wouldn't see that pathetic performance on your farm with a Gleaner if you read this talk show and understood these machines as we do.

Well put! A R-72 is fully capable of 5+ mph with 12 row corn in 200 bushel corn. It is just that Agco doesn't know it.

Blackie, You are DEAD WRONG I have a R72 with a 12-30 corn head on it and it is no where near maxed out at 2.5 mph in corn. Until you have drove one dont make an assuption. If you did you would eat those words Illinois Gleaner

Illinois Gleaner, Just an observation on my part based on what I saw at the 2001 Farm Progress show. I know alot of the factory people don't know the feel of the machine as compared to a guy who runs combines every day. There are not many Gleaners in this part of Ohio to compare to. You would think that companies would put somebody in the drivers seat that could put the machine through it's paces.