No just dont like the additude about gleaners.He was making comments that sounds like he is better then someone that might drive a gleaner. I for one drive gleaners,and neither of you are any better then me because you choose another color to drive.They are silver seeders,if you arent smart enough to set them,and they have been painted since 98. Now how does that make me grumpyIJIJIJIJIJIJIJIJIJAnother guy said Gleaner even gave up on the break aways. Well they havent I wouldnt trade my swivel for a turrent,I like simplicity,I guess that is why I drive gleaners in the first place Have a good one IG