Combines Combine backfeeds in dry canola

G

Guest
A few things that you can try are to put your feederhouse in the high speed position, adjust drum height position, put it in the corn position, and also check your stripper plates on the top shaft of your feederhouse, make sure that they are within a 1_16 to 1_8 of inch of shaft.
 

Darryl

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Thanks for the advice, I will try to speed up the feeder chain and see if it throws it in faster. I assume that lifting the drum up to the corn position is to reduce the straw breakupIJ
 

d_a_s

Guest
We just got another cts and it had its cylinder door removed and it was alot better than the other cts.Maybe try a sunnybrook high inertia cylinder.We are thinking of trying them,they say it will stop that.
 

land_Surfer

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The problem that you are experiencing is the inconsistency of moisture (or dryness). In the morning, your windrows contain a consistant amont of moisture throughout. In the afternoon's, the windrows are drying out causing feeding to be eradic due to dry material (probalby on top) and higher moisture material on the bottom. Those two opposing conditions can drastically change the feeding process of any combine. Increasing speed and adjusting stripper plates to a very slight tolerance will indeed help. However, the only reason I would run high on my feederhouse drum (corn setting) would be to alleviate increased shatter, which you are going to get anyway if the conola is dry, excess threshing always occurs in the feederhouse anyway. The higher the drum, the increased amount of material will be metered to the threshing system. I would rather have that a bit thinner to hedge the higher moisture swaths and potential rocks and debris that might be in the swath.
 

105_Diesel

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Deere's feeder chains are nortorious for backfeeding---you might try a Manchester Force-Feed feeder chain---it will largely stop the backfeeding and carryover, which is why the feederhouse is plugging.
 

Darryl

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Which door are you refering tooIJ The sunnybrook rep has been bugging me about a new cylinder also. The trouble is only a fraction of the grain gets threshed at the cylinder on a cts, a lot gets threshed by the tines. Good concaves and rub bars are not nearly as critical as on a JD walker machine. Most of the Sunnybrook guys I have talked to, do not really understand how a cts works, they just lump all JD combines under the same page. I would fail to see how a new cylinder could help, as the problem seems to be that the cylinder can't catch the canola stalks from the feeder chain, so around it goes for another trip. But I sure would be interested in any answers. If the 9500 and 9600 are the same combine to the back of the cylinder, then why do they not have any feeding problemsIJ
 

Darryl

Guest
Can you explain how the Manchester Force-Feed feeder chain worksIJ
 

d_a_s

Guest
I think your problem is getting out of the cylinder not in.It backfeeds because the beater will not pull it out.The cylinder door is the plastic dust door.It lets the canola go back out the front thats what JD guy and i think.You should have the back of the concave wideopen.This guy bought a ctsII they went out help set it,they tried putting the beater in slow speed and helped.I run harvest feeder chain in the one,and it made no to much difference.Wrong or right the dust door made the biggest difference,that was reason why the other guy had taken it out,it runs with JD feeder chain.
 

d_a_s

Guest
Also the 9600 and cts beaters are different design and works in a different manner. The cts throws it up and over the beater and the 9600 pulls it down over a grate.