Well, I have to say that destroying antique combines is certainly a form of stealing or destroying a part of history. As for safety, I have heard of outright malicious behavior in these events. I realize, serious fights also do break out in most contact sports. still, they aren't fighting with motor vehicles. Is this what we really want for the older combines that have been with us for so longIJ I don't find ANY F or AII or even G Gleaners around the county I live. Everything here has been long sinced replaced with newer machines. It was not that long ago, I posted a message as a survey to see who may be interested in preserving combine_harvesting heritage. I got quite a few e-mail responses. I also notice that when someone wants an old combine to restore, he posts on these pages because he obviously just can't find any old combine parked around his corner. I don't know how rare the old combines are, but they are not only rare, but declining. Once they're gone, they're gone. I know maybe restoring or even just storing an old combine is not as easy as with a tractor, but in many ways, a combine can be so much more rewarding. The old Masseys and Deeres I've done really get attention at the shows. It is especially gratifying to hear comments like, "Gee, I didn't expect to see an old 27 here. It really brings back the memories." or "look at the 95. It sure is nice to see something other than just Johnny Pops, even if they are so great!" The list goes on. However, the popularity of destroying these really sets back the efforts of those of us who want to protect and preserve these old combines. I would like to think that here, posted on the pages of harvesting.com, are the ones who really care about their combines, looking to optimize performance, but also would see all combines worthy of the effort of preservation. Can't we give even the historic combines safe havenIJ I encourage "Buckeye Gleaner" to reconsider his intention and sell the old Gleaners to a good home if they are restorable. I would guess they are, since in order to qualify for a demo derby, they would at least have to run, which is a step more than many of the combines I have saved for restoration. long live the old Gleaners!!!