Combines coventional Vs rotary

Green_Envy

Guest
In my area Case 2388's have way more capicity in barley than the John Deere 9600's. Alot of the Coors growers around here have Case combines. They also give a better sample in barley. That is the reason why we switched from the 9600 to the CTSII which is a combination of the walker and rotary designs. The only reason I compared the Case and Deere machines is because those are the only combines around here.
 

Dustmaker

Guest
In most cases the conventional does not provide as good of sample, especially in barley. In wheat there are less cracks, and generally loses are much less with a rotary. Unless there is a need to bale the straw behind for livestock, I would never look at a conventional. Any color, yellow, green or red is better in a rotary.
 

greenman

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I cannot see much point in going overboard with a sample just as long as it makes the top grade. And from my experience the 2388's make a better sample in canola but for wheat, barley, oats and so on the 9600's have the upper hand.
 

greenman

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I cannot see much point in going overboard with a sample just as long as it makes the top grade. And from my experience the 2388's make a better sample in canola but for wheat, barley, oats and so on the 9600's have the upper hand. But I also know there are the rotary people who will never look at a conventional like yourself and there are others who are happy with there conventionals
 

bm

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The service manager at the local Deere store is a former CaseIH mechanic (for 30 years). He worked at the same town's dealership. I've heard a lot of stories about Deere owners being upset about the wear in the STS combines, but he says that rotary combines just wear out faster than conventional combines do, and that the Deere customers are just not used to that wear being that they'd always been (behind) used to the walker combine. He's been having a hard time getting people convinced to have their STS machines being "gone through" the shop each year like the "red" people had gotten used to. The CaseIH dealership basically lived off of combine WORK. Anyway, that's my two cents. Just something to remember when you compare the two.
 

Green_Envy

Guest
Our neighbors take their Case combines to the dealership every year to get worked through.
 

gunner

Guest
I have never ran a convintal and i don't know anything bout em really. But we have a R-62 and have ran gleaner R's for bout 12 years know. It doesn't seem like there is alot of wear. We have had 3 machines in that time. We trade about every 5 years or so. It seems that u have to replace alot of stuff around 1200 sep. hours or so. That is just our expernice.
 

greenback

Guest
How would you compare the capacity with the cts ,2388 and 9600 in wheatIJ
 

Farm_Kid2

Guest
If you try to keep the loss the same, the 2388 is quite a bit bigger than a 9600 or CTS. The CTS was way short on power. I'm sure the extra power in the CTSII makes a difference.
 

Green_Envy

Guest
We have a CTSII that we traded in a 9600 for. Power is not a problem unless we were going up a hill at 6 mph while unloading. The capacity in barley is the same as the Case 2388. The 2388 and the CTSII are about the same in wheat. However, some guys on some years have trouble getting the kernels out of the hulls because they were baked in so hard by the heat. With the CTSII you don't have that problem because if conditions get tough, you could always close the space between the cylinder and concave just like on the conventionals. In barley, there is no comparison between the CTSII and the 9600. We have been able to harvest faster with a better sample. In wheat the CTSII has just a little bet more capacity than the 9600 but once again, we can get a better grain sample. We also have had slightly less loss than the 9600 in all crops. All of this has been from our experiences. We talked to some Australian Customer cutters that run CTSII's and they said they were going 8 mph in 60 bu. barley. They also said their combines came with a higher 2nd gear and a bigger clean grain elevator than the American models. Overall I think our next combine will be a CTS model unless the STS proves itself to us.