Combines CR STORY

JHEnt

Guest
Hey FR, I have not heard of any updates on older 960's. They did say all new 940, 960, 970 are supposed to have the more agressive shoe. last time they only changed the shoe on Corn_soybean CR970's. I'm not shure if they are doing the rest of the small grain ones or not.
 

Rockpicker

Guest
How come a cleaning system that NH_Case so proudly boasts having "10,000 sq inches" of cleaning area needs to be more agressiveIJ
 

Rockpicker

Guest
How come a cleaning system that NH_Case so proudly boasts having "10,000 sq inches" of cleaning area needs to be more agressiveIJ
 

JHEnt

Guest
Because guys in IA were in such a rush to harvest corn they wanted to run 8 MPH in 35% corn. The standard shoe geometry (dates back to the TX66_TX68 from early 1990's) would not separate that high moisture corn fast enough and it would go over the back at high ground speed. So they made the shake more aggressive and apparently it now works much better at silage moisture corn. I personally know guys who shelled in the high 20% range and had no sieve losses with 940 and 960 machines.
 

Rooster

Guest
I start shelling corn every year at 28% moisture. The more corn I can get done above 18% the less loss I have across the board. There is always a discount for those who can get their corn in early to help the coop start their dryers and I am there every year. I have also not had to pick as much down corn as most have had to do the past couple years.
 

Ilnewholland

Guest
One of my dealers told me that the used '03 CR960 he has on the lot will get the new shoe. It will take 80 hours of work and he has to pay for that.
 

JHEnt

Guest
Well it just proves everyone has different situations. The coops in my area have no dryers. If you bring in 20% moisture corn they ussually will not accept it. Even at 16% the dockage is so high that it is far better to wait untill 15% before shelling if you don't have your own dryer and bins. I think most people need to reevaluate combine losses that they are figuring based on corn moisture. With cylinder machines dry corn is easily cracked and even ground up, but with rotor combines you can run at alot lower moisture without cracking the corn if you run the machine full enough.
 

Rooster

Guest
That only applies to cylinder machines whose threshing system is led by a rasp bar cylinder and only has one cylinder performing all of the threshing. The lexion has a pre-separation cylinder that loosens and separates easy to thresh grain (up to 30%) prior to it ever hitting the rasp bar cylinder. Pre-separation allows you to run much slower threshing speeds reducing the risk for damage and provide multi-pass threshing like a rotor with more consistent feeding through the threshing system on to the twin rotors due the lateral distribution it creates eliminating the effects of tough to thresh material (romping sound). Because of its consistency and gentle threshing, I would say that the lexion also has to be the most fuel efficient combine around. I know it is alot better on fuel than my old 9750STS, by atleast 40% per acre.
 

shellman

Guest
What you say is true, but you are still using steel on grain to thresh. Rotary machines utilize crop on crop motion to do the majority of the threshing. Produces much less damage to the grain.