Combines Curious about silver paint

[Mike]

We had always run Gleaners and a "token" Deere (to satisfy my college buddy dealer) until our local "worlds largest gleaner dealer" went broke last year. Several years with a couple R62's and a 1994 9500 for beans only. We really looked everything over R72, 2388, 465Cat and a 9650. Deere brought us the 9650 and said "run it until you want to buy it or bring it back" We put about 40 seperator hours on it. love the deere platform 930F. Runs circles around our 525 Agco. Corner posts in cab need to be moved to give driver clear view. Other than that we really liked it. However we've heard of a lot of problems(as typical in a new release). In all the 9650 was about the same as the R72 in beans, but the 72 was a man among the boy in corn. We ran it 7mph (8row)in 180-200 bushel corn with very little loss. 5-5.5 was tops for the 9650 before it ran out of power. Cat makes a nice combine. They could reduce moving parts by 200%. After having some troubles with the 465 we used for a day, I too would question service. Gobs of fuses and wires scared me to death. I really liked the 2388. We ran it for a day. Seems to be about a simple as the gleaner, but is more comparable to an R62 than a R72. If it had another 60hp and a bigger shoe it would be better. Fieldstar is more easy to use than AFS and the lateral tilt on the Gleaner seemed to work with less effort, though that could be a difference in the set up. We went with the R72. If Case had a bigger machine similar to the 2388 we would have had a tough choice. We still have the 9500 and will continue to run it in beans. Repairs on it are starting to mount on the 9500 so we may look at a used R52 as repairs on the Gleaners seem to be easier and cheaper that the walker model Deeres. Try 'em. The gleaner system is so simple. case is close but not quite as simple. Good luck

 

[lbran]

All one has to do is walk up to any make combine and look at the drives and access to the drives, how the belts are put on and look at the Deere, and C-IH brochure that shows the "Guts" of the machine and Gleaner wins hands down. I've been in the C-IH 2388's and a R62 will outperform it. I do however know how each machine is set up and operated does make a difference, but all being equal, the Gleaner will out do it. Been there done that.

 

[minnr62]

What I really like about the Gleaner rotaries are when you walk up to one it is so simple to adjust and there are not many belts piled on top of one another compared to other colors, I feel the natural flow design alows me to harvest later at night than other colors, it does not slug or pull down when the beans get tough at night. I notice it getting tough because of the feeding not the combine. Accessability of the Rotor and engine is very easy. Over all it is just such a nice simple design that has an enormous amount of capacity. Short wheel base for sharp turns. The Gleaner I believe is the lightest weight too. On the Gleaner rotary there are so few moving parts that there really is nothing to cause downtime or breakdowns. I have loved the Gleaner rotary design since our first N-5. Gleaner was the first to produce a 12 row corn head which shows their confidence in the capacity. I can just about garantee you would love a R62 or R72 too. Plus you have this web site !

 

[AlanE]

You touched on something I've wanted to ask.For the most part around here the red machines are parked at dark.They laugh and say it's a built in safty feature.My question is how can the gleaner do.From the looks of the throat it looks small compared to others.I've never been around one running in the field,thats why I ask.

 

[mo_farm]

Now for an opposing point of view. I have an R62 that will not keep up with my neighbors 2366. We both run 25 ft flex heads and 8-30 corn heads. He can run just as late at night as I can and gets a much better grain sample than I do. As far as which is the simpler of the two to work on I believe the gleaner is better there which is good because I have to work on it a lot more than he does on his case. He runs about 3 times as many acres as I do and got all his harvesting done before me this fall, mainly because I had so much down time waiting for parts and repairs. His case is newer than my gleaner but has more hours and just out performs me in every way possible in the field. I know that the operator could be part of it but I think the combine is the biggest difference of the two.

 

[T__langan]

I'll go back to that hose mod that I love so much to answer your question. Before we tried the hose mod, we would have trouble getting short beans to feed evenly - they would piule up on the cutterbar and all go in at once in a big slug and usually plug the feederhouse. I remember we were cutting for a neighbor a couple of years ago and having troubles with plugging. Another neighbor who runs a 9500 was cutting similar size beans across the road and I noticed he was stopped a lot too. I talked to him later and he confirmed that he was having feeder plugging problems same as us due to the short beans. We runs the same size Deere head as our 800. So the wide feederhouse doesn't help a bit if you run slugs in - they will plug just as quick as the narrower Gleaner feeder. This last fall was our first running the hose mod - we ran all fall and only plugged the feeder twice - once being operator error. Tall or short beans - flew along as fast as the cutterbar would cut. The secret to any of them is smooooth crop flow! Where the Gleaner excells in tough conditions over a longitudinal rotor is we have direct feed to the rotor_threshing area just like a conventional direct feeds to the cylinder. The longitudinals have to make a transition that causes crop to bunch up and_or rope when the going gets tough.

 

[Farmer_Ed]

Hello! I was just wondering if I missed the posts on the hose modificationIJ! What is thatIJ Sounds interesting! I check this talk show every day usually. Studying in a dorm room all day can get boring really quick! One good thing is this is an agricultural school (Michigan State University). I plan on teaching agriculture and part-time farming on the side. I'd rather farm full-time, especially being the 5th generation farmer, but I can see the writing on the wall! Plus I can always go back to the farm if the teaching thing doesn't work out! Getting a pay check every two weeks isn't all bad though once you get used to it! ;-) -Ed

 

[T__langan]

Teacher Ed - Below is the link to the hose mod info and pic that is listed under "Gleaner Upgrades" over there under "Tips". Click on the "Flex Headers" link to see the pic.

 

[Illinois_Gleaner]

operator ,not combine,at least you have found the problem now you can fix it.Admitting our problems are the first step in recovery. Now don't get made I couldnt resist.You have to have something wrong because that 2366 should in no way shape or form keep up with your 62. John Ferguson

 

[Illinois_Gleaner]

Sounds like you ahve made a smart choice on that teaching thing with the way farming is. But with where your going to school I have to ask . How about those buckeyesIJIJIJIJIJ John Ferguson