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Mike, Great comparison I was worried when I seen you start out because I saw you talking about HERBER (IJspelling) going out. Are they going to get you guys a dealer in that part or notIJ What happened down there anyway with them going out IJ Did they go underIJ Was Bob still in the dealership or notIJ Ive always thought that about the Gleaner but cant give a good comparison because that is what we have always run.We got a 72 this fall and it makes our 62 look like a boy in a mans fight ,I never dreamed that there was such a difference between the 62 and the 72. John Ferguson

His 2366 will flat out smoke my 62 any day any time. The only thing I know of that he has done to the case is turn up the fuel pump a little. Ok quite a little, but he has the biggest dog in the yard around here. It really gets discourageing with him on one side of me and 2 9610s on the other side all of which will put this gleaner to shame. My home town was home to one of the origional N7s and there hasn't been much intrest in gleaner around here since. The performance I'm getting out of this 62 I don't believe there will be much intrest in them around here any time soon.

Head west young man I live west of lansing about 25 miles and you can see one live and in person! Tim

Mo, you are a breath of fresh air. I've been growing depressed thinking I was the only one who found Gleaners don't quite make the cut. I rented a 1666 to keep soybean harvest going last fall while waiting to resolve a breakdown aggravated by Gleaner's lack of parts support for my R50. This 1666 has measurably more capacity than the R50. Run circles around the Gleaner in tough condition. To say nothing about parts costs and availability. My lottery winnings are putting Allis to her final rest!

I'm not saying all gleaners are bad, I'm just saying that there not all the wonderful acre eating beasts that just blow away all other brands combines that some on this site would have you believe. If I win the lottery this gleaner I've got will be the first thing to go to a new home and it won't be replaced with another gleaner!

Wow, you guys are prompt and funny! Thanks for the offer of heading West, I may take you up on that if yours is different then the one I looked at in Gleaner upgrades. We run many older Gleaners along with a 89' Axial Flow. On the header of the Case they have a ridge just about like what you guys are doing with the hose. Is this the same conceptIJ I'm hoping the teaching thing works out as well, they tell me there are a lot of ag teachers needed in MI and other places as well. MSU is the best college in the world! Or at least I think so! It has many number one things in the nation, including teaching, and agriculture is right up there as well. It has a beatiful campus and lots of girls! BuckeyesIJ Who are theyIJ ;-) MSU stomped on them the game they played them here! Just keep an eye out for MSU! NCAA Champs. I think they'll go pretty far again this year. Well I should be getting to bed, enough partying....oops I mean studying on this Friday night! ;-) Take care and thanks once again. -Ed

Gee, ED, MSU can't possibly be n1 in those things because they told me that the UW-Madison was when I was a student there. We have a beautiful campus with lots of girls also - but also have the "Virgin Vault" aka liz Waters Dorm where they lock all the freshman women up at night! Add to that 3, yes THREE Rose Bowl titles recently and there is simply no question!! I don't know about MSU, but the Delta Theta Sigma chapter at UW-MadCity is the real life embodiment of Animal House. I still have short term memory loss from parties I attended at that house!

Have either of you tried to find a solution to your problems and correct themIJ I'd say the ratio of very happy Gleaner operators on this board to unhappy ones is about 50:1. That tells me that the mods work and if you're having problems, you can't blame the machine or the company. long before I found this site, we made the switch to an R40 from an M3 - the R40 was an underpowered, slugging pig. We cut exactly one crop of oats that summer (only about 100 acres) and nearly burned off a rotor belt. Ended up trading it that fall for an R50 because we thought the problem was lack of power. looking back, now that I know what we should have looked for, we could have made that combine into a smooth feeding machine that would have served us well. You have this resource at your disposal free of charge - use it! The weakest part of a Gleaner (or any combine!) is what sits in the operator's seat. Take care and good luck! Tom langan

I'm not trying to say that the mods won't work what I've been saying all along that these combines should be built at the factory so you don't have to do all this to them for them to do a decient job of harvesting. Sure agco has made running improvements over the years but they are still not as good as case or deere right off the lot. Maybe you can make them as good or better but it should be that way when you buy it not after you work it over. You say yourself that you had problems with that R40 and from what I read of your other posts that you have hyperized your current combine so you must have been looking for improved performance. We need to tell agco to make these machines the best on the market when they leave the factory and not leave it up to the farmer to fix the problems.

your comments have just been read by the Head Honcho In Charge through the wonders of email forwarding!!!!! And I somewhat agree with you. Big ships are steered by little rudders and sometimes don't turn as fast as we think they should ( capsizing could result if they did!) .... There is one problem. The Gleaner is built to go into all crops, all across the world, and do an acceptable, above average job bone stock. One machine. No wires to pull, no grates to change, no specialty rotors that limit quality on a crop they are not designed for, 10-15 minute change from one crop to any other, balance, simplicity of design and super e-z maintainance _ repair. Many of you can add to this list. MOST CUSTOMERS, BElEIVE IT OR NOT, WANT IT THAT WAY. SIMPlE- RUGGED - RElIABlE , not the racehorsey HYPER gear-head versions we own and promote. Most of you guys who plug in to this site are not average old guys... (Some are way off the ploting ((or plodding) graph , in more ways that one! ;-)(TW) You want to talk with service _ AGCO, you can!. (Dealers are supposed to be the first line of contact, however, as time is a precious commodity of the service guys as they wear many hats other than troubleshooters.) You want to talk with head of engineering, you can (or someone will call you if you have a serious legit concern). They will 99.9 % of the time obtain satisfaction one way or the other. Try that with the other guys.... One of our local farmers bought a 9400 Deere w_ 6 row corn head. Wouldn't shell up a 12% grade with bin over 1_2 full. They upped HP, added intercooler, changed hydro and bunch of other stuff. local dealer did everything he could. JD area service rep came out, looked over combine in the field and said "it's doing everything its supposed to do. You are asking too much. Got in his lease car and left Dealer and customer in the field -according to customers own words. Customer traded for 9500 footed all the bills in the process to get his crop out and shelled downhill till the new one arrive. Horror stories abound in the Machinery area. Depends on the point of view and author as to interpretation and you for conclusions. Fact is, any production machine can be improved upon in certain local area conditions, in the hands of knowledgable operators - mechanics. Chevy_Ford_Chrysler and others even have special divisions devoted to HYPERIZING their products for those who want them. Ever see a silver haired lil' ole lady pull up to church on Sun. with a full blown Hemi and racing slicks shaking the stained glass windows with the cam lope and base_woofers_tweeters at full blastIJ To each his own. Thats what makes the farmer the most productive person on the face of the good lords green earth....he performs, one way or the other.