Combines cylinder bars in 9600

I put the loewen chrome bars in my 9500 this year at 1500 sepe...sepa.., threshing hours. I felt that because I run a lot of soybeans with a flex head that the chrome will wear longer in the dirt that gets into mine. I also ate several good slugs this year and now I see that several bars are bent. I don't blame this on the bars, but I have to say that I am a little dissapointed that they were not a little stronger. I'm now wondering if it's not better to buy the other bars and change more often. I don't know what the right answer is.

Whichever you choose, the bars come out of the same steel mill. I know loewen manufactures several different types of concaves, and are heavy duty, sometimes called rock crushers.

Call St. Johns Welding - can hook you up with what you need. Put new enclosed cylinder with new bars (has either type) and new concave in my 8820. It is a beast now. 1-800-549-3289.

Unless you have a lot of stones in your area, go with the chrome ones. I have always gone OEM so I don't know how the loewen bars are. Black ones are softer so they will bend if they hit a rock where chromed ones will chip and crack. It takes a lot to bend them. If you don't have many rocks, go chrome as they will last a lot longer and pay back the higher price.

Personally I would consider the Sunnybrook high inertia cylinder.About the concave if we were going to replace I think we would just go with the JD concave.We have a Kuchar one now but it is a little pricey.

Do you use the sunnybrook enclosed cyclinder with the kuchar concave and do you have the grate from kuchar behind the concaveIJ What do you think of the kuchar conversionIJ

I agree. I would go with a St. John concave, I don't know about the bars but I am going to try them based on my experience with the concave.

Bub,we use just the JD bars with the Kuchar concave.We would like to go to the Sunnybrook cylinder and probably will when the time comes.I feel it will save a little power and give a little better seperation. We have a complete super kit from Kuchar and are quite pleased with it.We have gained 2-3 acres per hour over the stock setup and have excellent grain quality.The only thing we don't use in the kit is the chaff breaker.We couldn't get a clean sample with it so took it out.We felt we needed more power to fully take advantage of the kit so we put in a 30% chip in.The machine runs at a more consistant speed now and walker losses are almost non existant.

black bars from deere are around 500.00 plus hardware and crome is 700.00 plus hardware using black bars in corn and beans last about 500 hrs and crome 1000 hours the new deere cylinder bars are easier to put in they have only one bolt on outside to hold them on that means 7 bolts on one bar instead of 14 on a 9600