Deerebines
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Hey there cowdoc Well here's what I've been told so consider it worth what you've paid for it. Most to all of the 860 Massey's out of canada I was imformed have the 6 banger engines in them. Mostly because they only cut wheat up there and don't need as much hp to run the machine....(B.S. in my mind....takes more hp to cut wheat than it does corn!). At any rate, let's say this deduction is true.....if that is the case then 2250 hours of "easy" labor on the machine shouldn't be any biggie. The 860 Dad picked up 3 years ago came from colorado but supposedly it was a canadian machine so I am assuming thier tachs hours are the same as ours....once again an educated guess. A fellow that had "supposedly" flown in from canada that day of the sale walked all around the machine with us and showed us what to look for and what was worn and we had run that 750 enough years to know he was intelligent on maintenance and wear point's on the machines anyways. Anyhows.......The tach showed 1200 hours on that 860 of ours the day of the sale. For a machine that only had 1200 hours we put in repairs the last 3 years in it like it had 3500 hours. I think we've finally gotten all the bugs out of it as it's a cutting s.o.b. now. Seems like everytime we fixed something that broke or was about to break it had already been messed with before us......not factory either. The ole guy we bought it from was quitting because he was developing alzheimers in the worst of ways. We think the ole f@rt had a worse case of alzheimers on the day of the sale than ever before on purpose! In a nutshell I don't know much about canadian combines other than what I've been told and the source was a complete stranger so I'm hesitant to believe it. I guess if it was me since they ain't exactly making these machines anymore I'd take a road trip (if the price is right!!!) and start looking through them top to bottom and find what I could wrong with them and go from there. I'm getting anymore that when I buy an older machine be it tractor, combine or pickup I pay no attention to the odometer or tach hours. I make a visual of the entire machine, working parts, all fluids, and tire wear. True, fluids can be changed on a whim, some working parts you are not able to see, and tires can be switched between junkers.....BUT.....I don't know of alot of dealers that are that ambitious and every minute they waste on that machine is another dollar they are putting into it that they might be 2 years before they get a return on. Not many mess much with a used machine other than the cosmetics of it for that reason alone. I'd just give it a once over. You seem to know massys.....not alot of difference between the old 750 style's to the 860 except size and capacity. We are thinking that harvest is going to start here in northwest kansas around the 10th to the 15th of june. I'm pretty certain we are going to be in the field before fathers day. No sign of weeds yet on the fields I didn't get sprayed before the flag leaf was up. I imagine I'll start seeing them by the end of this week first part of next week. I heard that the custom rates were going up this year to compensate the cost of the diesel fuel. last year I heard of guys with the new machine's charging 13, 13, and 13. Some of the older machine operators were charging 12 straight across the board. I wouldn't be surprised if you don't hear of alot of 14 and 15 clear across the board now with the price of the new machines and cost of fuel. How in the sam he11 are we supposed to make any money out here with those kind of pricesIJIJ One of these days the farmer is going to get pinched down to where there is nothing for him. You watch........it's coming. Sorry that post was so long.........boring sunday evening. Take care
) but not alot. That ought to give you an idea why I talk as much as I do about the massey's. I personally think that Massey was an excellent machine but 2 things I personally feel killed them. 1: That vibrating perkins engine.....I've never ran one yet that didn't make me feel like I ran a jackhammer all day after leaving the cab....A cummins in my opinion would of been alot more intelligent move. 2: Poor quality control! That 750 when it was new had more bugs in it to fix than anything I've ever seen new. Half the bolts were missing. There was an add on kit cooler that had to be installed and like idiot's we paid for it when we found out in later time that Massey would of took the check on that one. If they would of just slowed down.....made some finer improvments......checked the machines better before they left the factory they'd still be making these machines instead of painting Gleaners red and buying the patent rights for a combine from white......of course that's simply my opinion. Well that ought to give you an idea of my background with the MF's. Have a good one