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Combine_Wizard

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Harvester, I TOTAllY agree! I know over the years, the moniker "Silver Seeder" has stuck in many peoples' minds. It seems our silver combines have been the brunt of many jokes aimed at combines and combiners, but in reality, any combine, regardless of make_model, IS only as good [or bad] as its operator will allow. let the Silver Seeder pseudonym go to the grave with all the other urban and rural myths and legends. I agree that some combines are harder to set than others. Also, some combines are simply overbuilt and overcomplicated, but they still sell. The Gleaners have always been one of the hallmark machines for overall simplicity and easiness to work on. I also question AGCO's policy on dealershhip contracts. I think a dealer for Gleaners should also be able All of the products by AGCO, regardless of color or sub-brand names. Way too many companies, including Deere cut way too many dealers, many of whom had been in business 20-40 or more years and were actively selling lots of machines and implements. It just does not make sense at a time when farmers themselves were having major financial woes and needed their lOCAl dealers for support.
 

Quicksilver

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Where did this "Dakota Boy" come from! Well your john deere bull n*^t propaganda is NOT going to make us switch brands because of the bottomles lies you cant get a handle on. Your waisting your time so go out side and make yourself a pretty little GREEN snowman
 

max_doubt

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Isn't the green combine known as the Straight-through-seederIJ
 

dakota_boy

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Sorry I did not know this was a gleaner only site. My uncle said the main reason was due to hardly any dealers around and some other things he did not like, sorry to offend you. We do not have any snow around anyway, I do not know what this means. I did not tell you to switch brands. Maybe after you get your combine set and running correctly you will not be so grumpy.
 

Silver_Shoes

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To me the name silver seeder makes sense, not because the gleaner is a seeder, but the name just has a ring to it. Its a name thats easy to remember and is a good mudslingin name. Its kinda like the name Green Grinder for the conventional Deere machines. We started hearing that name around the time of the 7720-8820, when everyone else had rotors and less grain damage. I remember watching a deere video tape, in the dealers office and deere said on that tape that they seen no evidence in there testing that would allow for a better grain sample or high capacity with a rotor design. Deere started loosing large numbers of customers to the next big name brand IH. And decided they had to hurry up and switch lanes. In the process of their marketing strategy they bought the Bi Rotor and everyone was saying Deere was going to build a Bi Rotor (what better publicity scam than that) They shelf the Bi Rotor and build the STS. Im sorry Im not that offended by the clingy name Silver Seeder. It does have a ring to it and thats why it sticks. How would Silver Grinder soundIJ lOl just doesnt fit does it. I remember thinking when the 9500's came out that they were really a nice appearing combine. They were sleak and wow I knew they would sell quite a few of those. Well I dont buy a combine for the sleakness. A used gleaner combine is probably the most underrated value. Anyone thats looking for a nice used machine should definately look at a silver one. I bet even the wife and the banker would give the same advice if you brought the the purchase sheets. My dad always said that you dont have to have all those bells, whistles and chrome. Funny now how Gleaners new machines really have all the bells and whistles you could possibly want in a combine. Wow Im being long winded. Sorry I just ment to say Im not all that offended by the slang words Silver Seeder.
 

AGCOfan

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Go work at an AGCO dealer that sells Gleaner. I did and you will then realise how simple they are. Go try to pull the rotor on a Deere or even a New holland. Did that last year and took 5 of us to pull the 2 rotors. Not easy. Have to pull the rotor on a Gleaner. 15min and she's out. I remember a mechanic having to go out to help a customer pull a plugged rotor out of his R62. He was back in an hour. Simplicity. Heavier steel on high wear areas come with a Gleaner. Know of a 9650 thats grain tank is wearing through and needs replacing. There's an advantage. Take care, Nathan
 

Illinois_Gleaner

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Agree with you 100%. There is a New Holland dealer in town that would love to have the Agco dealership now. Agco says no they want one that stands on its own in its own location.The stupid thing about it is.This same dealership owns another location about 50 miles west that has both Hew Holland and Agco. Illinois Gleaner
 

orange

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It seems that the current thinking in Duluth is a strong desire for more and higher quality dealers where it is warranted. I totally agree that there needs to be more cohesiveness with AGCO, Gleaner, Hesston and the like. There may be changes coming here as well. As a strong supporter and user of AGCO products, we have to travel long distances just to stay Orange_Silver, Unfortunately, some of our local AGCO dealers wouldn't qualify as a dog pound. The Board of directors feelings are that the current products offered are now second to nobody in North America; and still little movement in NA market share. I can fully appreciate their disgust and there are certain AGCO dealers that need to be jacked up, and should now consider major improvements_new facilities or just get out. Too many good AGCO dealers that have made the necessary positive changes that suffer from the stigma of the bad ones.
 

NDDan

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I agree with your friend for I believe the 9760 would be a closer HP match if HP hasn't been monkeyed with. A wheat grower won 100 free hours use of a R75. He had two brand new 9760s to run with it. 75 had 30' rigid auger head and JDs had 36' drapers. He had no complaints at all about the Gleaner and he said it did a very impressive job. This was in very tough wheat and mud conditions. They did not do any racing but for him to give the Gleaner the credit he did says something. I had the Gleaner outfited with all forward bars, standard set of rotor sweeps, and second and third helicals tweeked to prevent second pass over concave. Another time a guy with two 9750s rented a R75 set up as above to run soybean harvest together. They ran together for whole harvest and never did the Gleaner take the back seat. Then again they didn't do any racing either but they did run same size flex heads. Anyway you shouldn't have any trouble with your partially hypered machine and I would say it depends on conditions on how you other machine will do. Best of luck