Combines Deutz engine operators

[t_leslie]

I clean them everytime a replace the fan for a customer... It is amazing how much yuk that thing catches, I saw one you could mont to any engine one time but didn't pay it much attention till I saw the one on the deutz.. Now i wish I knew where to find one to fit on other equipment.

 

[camshaft]

Where is the filter located on the V8IJ I'm almost sure my manual doesn't say anything of this filter.

 

[doc_m]

Does the 1994 V-8 Duetz in the R-62 have these. Where are theyIJ I have read nothing about this unit in the operator's manual.

 

[Kurt]

HA HA Brian, it's not very nice to get everybody upset without explaining what you are talking about. If you are going to do that you better post more often. Brian is talking about the area in the fan that the oil flows through and the dirt gets spun out agaist the inside of the fan. I don't know if I explained that well enough, but I don't know what the official terminology is for this area of the fan. I was trying to recall isn't the rpms of the fan serveral thousandIJ Any way it does work very good for getting out more of the dirt out of the oil. Kurt

 

[Brian]

I was afraid somebody would ask the details of where this filter was and how to clean it; it was inevitable that somebody would point out my ignorance About all I know is it is behind the cooling fan. I do know that it doesn't look like much fun to clean therefore we've always had our dealer do it. I don't think Gleaner says a thing about it in the book. The 1,000 hour clean interval came from our dealer. Gleaner must not expect you to clean itIJ Our dealer used to sell Duetz tractors so they probably knew of these filters from those days. As far as I know all the V8's (probably most other engines too) have them...our neighbors tiling machine has one. Kind of a shame to have it and not clean it. I believe this filter is filtering oil that already came through the paper filters. I like t.leslie's idea of adding this type of filter to other engines as well.

 

[t_leslie]

This filter is also a part of the hub that the cooling fan turns on.. For those who don't know how the cooling fan is driven the easiest way to explain it is... There is a part in the fan assy that is similar to a torque convertor in the an automatic transmission.. that's what drives the fan at about 10000 rpm, it is a "fluid coupling".. The oil coming out of the torque convertor is flung against the wall of the "filter" and the particles in the oil stick to the wall of the the "filter".. and build up over time.. This filter is part n3370257.. If you have a deutz engine parts book for r62 combines.. I don't think I have ever seen mention of it anywhere in any service or operator manual.. In fact i think the first time I replaced a fan I thought I had messed up the Filter_cover when some of the black gunk broke off... The black gunk looks like a rubber coating on the inside of the "cover" but it will scrap off with a screw driver, If anybody wants to see one send me an email and I will send you a pic, I just happen to have a spare one in the shop ..I don't know if 1000 hours is too soon or too late.. we wear out cooling fans often enough that we clean the filter then.. Our dusty dry condition in texas is rough on them cooling fans. I think if you are good about servicing your oil and spin on filters you have shouldn't have to worry about this thing too often....but it should be taken care of when replaceing a cooling fan..

 

[T__langan]

Ahhhh, THAT'S what you guys are talking about. I believe the official term for that would be the "viscous coupler" or something to that effect. For the unknowing - the cooling fan is not directly driven on many Deutz engines. There's an exhaust temp sensor that triggers oil flow into this coupler - the more oil that is allowed into this thing, the faster the fan will turn. Supposedly will allow engine to warm up faster, maintain a more steady operating temp over varying load conditions, and reduce fuel use somewhat since the fan isn't robbing so much power at light loads. I was wondering too what he was talking about - but figgered it was something on the V8s and we haven't had one of those. Belarus tractors used to have a centrifical oil cleaner instead of filters - no filters to buy, just clean the thing out at each oil change. Wonder how effective compared to actual oil filters though! Tom langan

 

[Brian]

As you can probably guess I was so vague because I had a feeling that I was in over my head. Glad that all of you filled me in on the details! Also glad I didn't get raked over the coals for not knowing what I was talking about.

 

[Tom_Russell]

I appreciate the heads up on it, Brian. I dont recall seeing anything in the operators manual or the engine service manual so whatever I learned here turned out to be worthwhile. Next time I am into the fan plenum I will look closer at the fan drive. I had always assumed it was direct drive off the diesel pump drive. Tom

 

[goose]

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