Combines Deutz Engine

[tbran]

yup the big one is the right one...the little one is not used and is a on_off switch; the big'un is a increasing ohm as temp rises thingy. You can't turn the light on or off by grounding the wire either. Where people cross over to the processor at the back of the eng. , they have a propensity to hang the n12s on the wire and damage it. On the engine, just 'bout ever one I have seen has the oil cooler partially plugged on the square box on the lh side of the eng as you look from the ladder - it is beside the oil filter. We have had to unplug some with mig weld wire. We have a 90 degree jet on a pressure washer and air hose to keep 'em clean. Also there is a panel on back of the jugs between the turbo and walls that needs taking off once a yr to clean out jug fins. We have oversold the air cooled as low maintainance and customers have taken that as NO maintainance ....great engine but needs to be kept clean and leak free. Also keep a watch on the blower fan, it is aluminum and if it gets erroded it won't cool under max load.

 

[Paul]

Thanks for the answers and the "heads up". So why is the little one there at allIJ Paul

 

[tbran]

my wife has ask that many times ......... but these engines are _ were mass built and fit many different applications. Most had three warning devices - oil temp, head temp, and a warning buzzer that went off if all else failed. We sold a 6260 to a farmer who put a hired hand on it after loading silage all winter with grill off (all his tractors looked like a Serbian convoy after an A10 strike) the engine was packed with sliage. The oil temp (we installed for Murphy Shutdown) went peggged so he checked the oil and went on. next the head temp. went off so he took the cover off the blower housing to "give it more air" finally the head switch for the horn went off and he cut the wire to the "d_ _ _ _ horn" after beating the steering wheel center cover off. The engine locked down. He let it cool and finished the job. Took the tractor back home and told owner "Stupid air cooled tractors are a piece of S _ _ _. He luckily found another job after a couple of weeks of unemployment ..........

 

[lbran]

I would think it would run somewhat lower than in something like a combine. Contact BEBCO at the following, ask for Billy:662-759-6493He can give you the info I think you will need. He is an industrial Deutz dealer, and a good one at that.

 

[Fla_Veggie_Farmer]

I don't know about the combines your talking about but the Deutz engines run very hot as compared to a water-cooled engine. They'll last forever running like this at 2300 RPM. If you try to run a Deutz engine down @ 1,800 under a load, you'll fry it! They'll lockup (smoking jugs) 1 and 2 (the backend of the engine) without enough air going through them. Engine oil temperature runs 275+ degrees when running proper. We don't have any gauges at all on ours in the citrus hedgers. The sending units and oil lines have caused more problems than they've saved. If a Deutz engine dumps all it's oil it smokes the pistons before any bottom end damage is done. If you ever have to go into the bottom of a Deutz you'll spend more money than you can buy a new one for. If a Deutz has oil, good belts (913s),and the air chamber is ok, youre not going to save nothing by having gauges on it anyhow. The only gauge they need is something telling you the blower bels are there on the 913s. The 413 and 513 blowers are gear driven and nothing is needed for them. We've got Deutz engines that are on irrigation wells with 20,000+ hours and still don't burn any oil but they run hot too. If a Deutz runs cool they gaule the rings, get diesel into the crankcase, burn oil worse than a 2-cycle Detroit and won't last very long. They need the heat to keep a tight fit and since theres no thermostat having enough engine load is the thermostat. The top end of a Deutz is very cheap to rebuild if you know where to look. The one problem is they must have the air chamber inspected regular for rats nest. The I-6 913, 413 and 513s get the rats on top of the oil cooler and the 413 and 513 V-8s get debris on top of the V and it needs checked on regular also. Both of these things will cause engine failure and fire if not taken care of.

 

[Dave]

I have an R50 and I do not think the engine runs hot. It is air cooled and has no water so it may run hotter than a water cooled engine, but it never boils over. My engine oil temp stays down and the only time the head over temp came on was when the sending unit went bad. You do need to clean out the coolers and air passages around the piston jugs and that about all. I am well pleased, and it does have power............

 

[TEEWTER]

Dave blow jugs out. If they have a lot of bild up on them use easy bake cleaner , and let them sit and then clean them. Check your fan too....

 

[TEEWTER]

Dave blow jugs out. If they have a lot of bild up on them use easy bake cleaner , and let them sit and then clean them. Check your fan too....

 

[T__langan]

I agree with Dave - the engine oil in all our Deutz engines has always ran pee warm, not hot. even when working the dickens out of them. Just have to remember to keep the oil cooler clean as everyone has stated. It must REAllY get hot down in Florida! Tom langan

 

[vstk]

Dan, My experience says it is cheap insurance to check it. most it can cost is a little labor and a couple gaskets. They do seem to change and because the clearance is so little it can make a big difference. They have to be set to exact spec.......24 hrs cold. Have seen it done other methods and they do not work....they may get you runnning in a pinch but they are not exact enough.Also have injectors checked at about 1500 hrs. VSTK