Combines Do I have to buy a CIH 1682

[John_W]

I don't think you'll find a lot of difference in the straw after its gone through a chopper whether the machine is a walker or rotary, especially a Redekop chopper. Redekop also has updates_improvement kits for the OEM Deere choppers that will improve chopper performance. Another thing to keep in mind is that all this straw grinding takes horsepower which can degrade the combine performance or slow things down. Another thing to consider is which crop varieties you grow as some have residue that are easier for no-tillers to deal with than others.

 

[pull_type]

Thanx for the response John W,I truely wish I could agree,but we ran the redekop chopper in a 7721 for about 4 years (when I farmed with another guy that has since gone CTS),And there was no comparisn to a CTS or a Axial Flow,if you try to drop the straw for bailing behind a CTS_AF,you'll know how well they grind the straw before it hits the chopper. I guess I was wondering if there was any way of speeding up the redekop,without getting in trouble,or some other inovation,ie a beater with some kind of blades or somthing,I dont know,I'm just brainstorming for Ideas so that I can run a JD,but manage the straw as well.thanx

 

[Bigsky]

I'm a bit confused. We have been "0"tilling now for 5 years, and have never had any trouble with residue. We hire all differant types of combines, from 9600's to 2388's, to Massey 760 a year ago. Had one field of heavy oats that we hired out to local farmer with his 760 Massey. We run 9 3_4" spacing on our air drill. Our neigbour runs 7" spacing on his airdrill, and he too is 100% "0" till. What type of seeder are you usingIJ You have to start at harvest time. We always use a heavy harrow to spread straw after the combine. What types of crops do you growIJ

 

[pull_type]

Bigsky,Traditionaly the crops we struggle with are the two row barleys and the spring wheats,the real problem is in the years where we have large amounts of rainfall,being in a black soil zone if the weather co-operates,we see barley crops in the 130-150 bu_acre and oats in the 170+ range,(seams strange talking these numbers,we've had extreme drought last 3 years)wich can create a real straw problem with zero till,the seeding tool is a flexicoil 820,12" spacing but going zero till would be the flexicoil 5000,12" or possibly the new seed hawk.I'd like to be able to go 10" if I could. We also heavy harrow behind the combine,and in the heavier crops we bale up the straw.thanx

 

[gbm]

going with a two speed jd[redekop] fine cut chopper will do as good a job as any of them in heavy straw. also , using the staight blades does not take near the power.

 

[John_W]

If your chopper is in good shape with sharp blades and the fixed blades set to the max you should chop good enough to get a Flexi 5000 through without problems. And you'll have to keep tuning up the chopper or else it won't keep doing the job. The standing stubble may cause you problems depending on how high you cut the grain. What works around here in high yielding ww stubble is to either hit it with a heavy harrow a time or two or use a flail or rotary mower with a mulching kit set to cut about 6" high. The mower_flail does the best job, but it is slower. Use Anderson paired row openers and you can stay at 12" or higher spacing and still have the rows close enough. Anderson is now selling a 7.5" paired row opener that they put on 15" spacing.

 

[NHD]

First, windrow the crop so the straw is dry.Second, use a NH TR-89 or 99. The choppe uses sprarp serrated knives and high speed along with serrated sickle sections. I've found nothin to compare and no extra cost, it's standard equipment. third, use a batwing bushhog to finish the job. In the San luis valley Colo. they sometimes chop the straw 3 times behind cobines other than NH.

 

[Joe]

Summers manufacturing of Maddock ND is making what they call a super coulter. it is about 40' and has two rank of coulters with good down pressure on it. if the condtions are not wet it will cut up corn stalks at 7 mph. I wonder what this kind of machine would do in your heavy wheat stubble and trashIJ

 

[Bigsky]

If you have that much straw, why not go with the Bourgalt 5720 coulter drill. We run a 5710 Bourgault, on 9.75" spacings, with mid row banders. Don't know what your budget is, but they are expensive....but the best in my humble opinion.