Combines Engine Swap

boomhauer

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As long as your overall dimensions and same engine RPM it's likely smooth sailing.I toyed with the idea of a 5.9 cummins in my 850.It would have worked but how much do you put into a combine before it pays for itself,maybe that's something to think about too.
 

whizz

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whyIJ if you want more power just open the pump up a bit more the standard engine is i believe about 180 horse power but most european version were tweaked up to cope with big straw loads. they smoke a bit then but its a lot cheaper than a new engine. I believe that power boat racers were tweaking these up to something like 450 hp at one time but i think that is going a bit far|
 

Goober

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Hi Allan, A few years ago Farm Show Magazine did an article on a guy who put a 903 V-8 Cummins in an 860. That cummins had about 275hp. He said that it really boasted his capacity about 40%. But really, If you have the 540 V-8 you could put an aftermarket turbo kit on it and turn up the pump a little bit and easily get 225-250 horses out of it. This would cost a whole lot less and not mess anything else up.
 

Alan

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Thanks for all of the suggestions. I know that it would be expensive but it is always fun to try something new and better what you already have. My biggest fear is that instead of better it could be worse! My 860 has had the pump turned up a little on it and it really does have good power, sure does blacken the sky up some. I wonder how much a turbo would cost, and would it hurt the engine to put it on now without it being new or overhauledIJ
 

ferge

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We had a Massey 1150 tractor with a Perkins V-8 (510 ci I think). It was a "dog" untill we put an MandW turbo on it. We didn't turn the pump up --you wouldn't believe it was the same tractor --- no engine problems!!!!!!
 

ferge

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I don't know if MandW is still in business or not ---I think they were located in Gibson City, Ill. I can't remenber if it ran any hotter or not but must not have or this ole man's memory might be slipping!!!!!
 

SDman

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Jacko, the easiest way I can think of to tell them apart is to see if there is an intercooler on the engine. The 9230 would have one, a 2166 would not. Also look at the serial n tag on the front cover by the injection pump, somewhere it should say "Engine model" or something close to that. If it says "6T-830", it would probably be one for a 2166, if it says "6TA-830", it would indicate it is aftercooled and perhaps out of a 9230. The injection pump would be different between these engines, the turbocharger is "mounted backwards" on a combine, meaning the air intake side of the turbo faces the rear of the engine, whereas on a 4WD it faces the front of the engine. As far as engine HP, a 9230 is rated at 235HP, while the 2166 is rated at 215, so its not a lot bigger HP-wise. Good luck and HTH.
 

davy

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I have a '65 and a '70 year 4020's that have 7700 combine engines. They fit in like a charm and have given a little more HP, better fuel filter setup, and block heater. My best guess is that we're running around 115-120 hp.