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jalopy

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Go offer your local Farm Manager as well as any local landlord $260_acre paid up-front March 1 and I'm sure you won't have a problem. Seems to work for the high-rollers around here, and has gotten rid of some of us small_mid-size farmers that are just "in the road."
 

pat

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You may want to consider your reason for growth - are you sure you enjoy farming and realize it is not a high profit business - hard to get rich farming (unless you had lots of hard working grandparents passing it down to you). Jalopy's scheme will certainly get you the land and it's worked in my area (not quite $260_acre - but it might as well be some years). I'm not sure how long folks doing business that way can last (the guy in my area supposedly has off shore $ and ties to space aliens if you believe the rumors, but he's still going after 3 years). Most of farming at more traditional levels (50_50 or sub $150 cash rent) wonder if the high roller is doing something special, but it doesn't appear to be so. Anyway, doing as good as of a job or better than the better operators in your area will help - or at least doing a sub par job will definitely hurt. However, this only affects landowners with some ties to the land (ie. they care about mowing, straight rows and no weeds),many new landowners are really only interested in the green of money (doing a nice job is still required though). If you can find a way to cut your costs_acre significantly (btw volume is not enough) by finding cheaper inputs like fertilizer - manure (application still costs $),industrial byproducts, etc you gain an edge when land comes up for rent (cash or 50_50). Running profit margins down to $10_acre in an average year is too risky in a business where you can't predict your gross income within $50_acre. Part of the problem is also we don't focus enough on making each of our current acres profitable and hope to use size to gain profitability. I'm half your size, but with 2 hog finishers and we manage to feed a family of 6 (kids are young though). It's taken G-d's help, some creative financing and lots of work to keep equipment and input costs down (though cheap_junk equipment and cheap seed don't work very well either). I guess I'm saying that at 1300 acres you could spend more time improving cost efficiency in your operation and wait for opportunities to arise (also keep your living expenses in check). Not all hobby farmers will stay with it (the glamour of farming wears off eventually) and the high rollers "consolidate" occasionally leaving landlords wanting to do business with stable operators interested in a long term business relationships. You have to live with your neighbors and taking land at any cost usually costs too much in the end. Sorry, lots of words - most of us are in the same boat you are in, Pat PS: I did have a neighbor who joined a country club in a larger town nearby and it got him several contacts for potential land buyers and a few landlords (it may have been worth the $10K fee)
 

George_2

Guest
Get yourself a horse and buggy and go live with the Amish. They seem to be able to survive on a 100 -200 acres and raise a family. Seriously, i wouldn't want to live without electricity and have to hitch up horses every day. They have got to be the lowest cost operators I know of and are very competitive in buying land. Maybe, in the end they will own all the land
 

Big_Green

Guest
Many people have lost most of their friends by getting land the wrong way, be careful to not undercut people and get a bad name!!
 

ohioIH

Guest
I dont want to step on anybodys toes or go outbidding my neighbors as I know this can cause a series of problems and can lead to outrageous rent increases or decreases when land owners are one day faced with the farmer who will not spend 260 an acre. Also the main reason I wanted to expand was simply because of my own concern for the land around me. Im not attempting to get rich and dont really care to ever, not a concern of mine. But I cant stand to see farmland wasted and neglected each year by careless farmers. I dont even know why that would exist..a careless farmer. But there are a few around here for sure. I dont raise hogs or run a dairy operation. Just want to preserve some ground
 

ohioIH

Guest
"How is the world treating you out that way" Is this directed towards meIJ If so, the worlds treating me just fine by thinking this way. I feel no shame for feeling disgusted when I drive by a field of corn in late November thats covered in weeds and is about 3.5' high and the ears are falling off due to laziness and the lack of caring and knowledge.
 

weber

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If you look at my post it is under jalopy he is a young man who worked for me this summer, I was wondering how the world is treating him since he is back at home harvesting his own crops....
 

ohioIH

Guest
alright, no problem, I wasnt trying to offend. Sorry for any confusion.
 

jalopy

Guest
How is the world treating meIJIJ It's in the eye of the beholder. To treat my depression, I'm spending more money that I don't have... Just bought a new toy tonight, a '96 Polaris XC 440. Neat little sled, don't know how it will handle the Wyoming mountains, though, hehee... I got the 3-row on the Massey last night, I have to adjust the stupid aandand-end of the concave, throw the chopper off, and I'm ready to give it a whril!
 
 
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