Combines Feeder wrapping woes Again

[Dr__Gleaner]

How is your rear feed chain. I have had same problem and found the rear chain was not pulling the crop from the front chain and thus would overfeed back to the front. I usually replace the rear chain first, then the front. Also the Manchester Force Feed chain does wonders in the machines because of the flipper design on each slat will force the crop to the next chain or to the rotor. Works very well and have used the Manchester for many years. Can get it in the 550 or the 557 version.

 

[Tom_Russell]

Ed In addition to checking the rear chain as Doc suggested, make sure you are driving the feed chains with the large sheave on the RH end of the feeder countershaft. Also make sure your variable speed sheave on the lH side has a space between the 2 halves. A slipping belt can slow down the entire front end and may cause problems you are having. I have no problems handling 50+ bu soys in rain, mist or whatever Mother Nature throws at us. Tom in MN

 

[Dan]

Ed, Did you do the most important suggestion from the earlier postsIJ You must convert that CaseIH head you have on that machine to bring the straw in beyond the sides of feed chain slats about 3" per side. If you have tention drum moved ahead you may have to move it back to have room for fairing extentions. If flighting on the CaseIH head does not bring straw in beyond the fairing extentions you will have to extend the flighting. The only time we have a feed shaft wrap up is when someone has removed the fairing extentions. If you will follow the tips from previous posts you will have no more trouble. Sorry to here you had to let your Gleaner sit so long. With very few exceptings over the last 20 plus years we have not had a machine lose more than one day of good harvesting if we are involved. We have had very little to no problem with parts availability wheather the machines came from Allis, Deutz, or Agco era.

 

[Hyper_Harvest]

Ed,

 

[Ed]

Dan, my CaseIH header has full height flighting extensions which overlap in the centre. Compared to my 318 header this thing feeds like a dream. You are right though, it does tend to feed off-centre. However, this wrapping problem did not suddenly appear with the red header. The first bean harvest I used it, everything went beautifully. last year soybeans in this area had 11% beans on yellow to greenish stalks. Wrapping began then and has not gone away except for Monday where I was harvesting beans which were low yielding and the stalks were so dry they disintegrated on harvesting. Spent most of today removing the feeder house so I could get a slug of wet stuff out which had jammed between the conveyors. The wad of material was evenly distributed across the width of the feeder. Isn't that the way you'd wish the crop to be spreadIJ

 

[le]

Seems like wrapping on the front chain probably is related to a problem on the rear chain. Could a slip clutch on the rear chain have gotten too much greaseIJ I know too much grease on a slip clutch can sure cause lots of grief.

 

[T__langan]

I'll add one more thing to check for that nobody has mentioned yet - make sure there isn't a dirt_mud build-up between the front and rear feeders that could hinder smooth flow between chains.

 

[Tom_Russell]

Good suggestion, Tom. A couple of years ago I had a pile of clay build up between the head conveyor and front feed chain. Material kept going around the head conveyor and little if any got into the feeder house. It would be easy to see where the same thing could happen between feeder chains. Tom in MN

 

[Dan]

Did the CIH head have the flighting extended and meet beyond center from the factoryIJ Just wondering. I know there are 300 heads that don't work well in some situations but work the best in some. Was the 300 converted properly to match up with the R50IJ Did you know about the suction pipe trick when you still had the 300IJ I don't know if you know what I mean by strippers. That is the stationary pieces behind the auger that keep the straw from going back over auger. They need to protude beyond the end of feeder slats to prevent the straw from getting on the top side of slats. I'm not so worried about the off center feed as much as you say you had to remove feeder housing to clear a plug between the chains. I've never heard of that. Maybe the other guys are right in that rear chain is not pulling away from front feed. I didn't recall any mention of feeders plugging. Is the rear feed chain an aggresive Gleaner chain or something else. I do know you have to have at least as good of slats on the rear chain as you do on the front chain.