Combines Feeding Problems

dibber

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This 95 model combine has lateral tilt also. As are 94 model 62 does. And what I found that seems to be happening is the front feeder drum rises high enough in the feeder house that the feeder chain hits the front of the tilting part of the feeder house if you have it tilted to far back towards the combine. So I am not sure how you are supposed to get the feeder chain close enough to the flighting on the head so it feeds smoothly from the auger to the feeder chain. We also have a 99 model R72 with the new style lateral tilt and the feeder chain at its closet point to the header auger flighting is 1.5" and this combine feeds perfectly. On the 62 with the older style lateral tilt you cant get the chain close enough to the auger flighting without the chain hitting to get this same dimension. We run 800 series on both of our combines and we can't even get the bigger flighting that close to the feeder chain on our 62. I think if we could get the chain closer to the flighting we would have a better feed. But I am not sure how this can be done. To keep the feeder chain from hitting we had to tilt the feeder house far enough forward that I am worried about having the guards angled to far down and then we will have trouble picking up rocks. And as you tilt the feeder house forward you are getting even more space between the flighting and the feeder chain.
 

Brian

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dibber, As far as even feeding with the old style lateral tilt goes; I have no personal experience with it. However, I met a custom cutter who I believe had the same problems you are describing. This guy claimed to have moved the front feed chain closer to the auger. He drilled new mounting holes for front feed drum and lengthened the chain by one link. Said it fed well after that. Not sure what position his blocks were in but he never complained about the chain raising up and hitting the lateral tilt. He went on to say that the new lateral tilt system did not need this modification. The guy runs 10 R-72's and did it to all of them. Hope this helps,
 

Tom_Russell

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If your plugging is starting on the sickle, reel sweeps from AGCO parts may help. I like them in soys, but have no experience in small grains. Tom in MN
 

dibber

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I am wondering if putting some shims in the top bumper block would help. It would keep the drum from rising as high and then your slats wouldn't be able to hit the lateral tilt cross member. But I am also wondering if that will affect the capacity of the feeder house if the drum can't travel as high.
 

Dan

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If your problem is right behind the cutter bar you should consider fastening some 2" or 3" tubing behind the cutterbar, Johnson rock bar, or the hump kit that Gleaner now has. Air reel or steggering the reel teeth may do it also. If it is mainly a problem with the middle area where the fingers are I would install the 4" flighting. I order the replacement flighting for the 30' head and cut sections to do the extending. We have went threw 60' of flighting now and have more on the way. The flighting has to be extended beyond what the 2" flighting did to get the left and right flighting to intersect a center line of the finger area. 4" flighting works great but in 90 plus bushel wheat straw you make need to weld some keystock to the 4" flighting to help lay down the straw and get it into feeder. I believe the auger drum is the same size on the 700 and 800 head but the flighting is 7" instead of 4". We did speed up the auger on a 400 head with a sprocket off of a 700 head to try get rid of the straw in front of the fingers but what really helped is the 4" flighting. The 700 and 800 heads do run the auger faster than the 400 and 500 heads and they work great. Have a great harvest.
 

Vern

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Thanks Dan for the info!! Im wondering if you have this available for others,, or if i need to order this flighting to make the extensions. Do you order the flighting for a 800 head,, orIJIJIJIJ Thanks again,, trying those extensions is one thing i want to try!!! Thanks!! Vern
 

Dan

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The flighting is from the 300, 400, and 500 heads. I'm out of flighting now but have more coming. Most of the flighting went on locally but have shiped some out. I'm expecting more flighting in about a week.
 

john_holland

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The idea is for the incoming grain to sweep everything through the rotors. possible problems: something inside feederhouse is shelling corn before it gets to top. front of concaves plugged so grain won't fall through and falls forward instead you should take off the feederhouse. it is easy and fast to do. you could try driving faster if you are feeding a light crop. The extra material might sweep the grain through. It is likely something is wrong inside if this is a sudden and obvious change. I would pull the feederhouse. Good luck
 

AAPIII

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2 things slowed the rotors down more and went faster problem solved!!! 20+ years of us having NH TRs we never had a "big" one only 85,86,87,etc. had to do some relearning with this one.