Combines Finished harvest love CDF

Tried the new version of bison rotor. looks like the way to go to me. Check it out before making up which way to go.

I agree with your Duetz comments - it really sips fuel in my 1992 R72 compared to the Cummins in my brother's 2188, and there is always power to spare - wish it was still an option in new machines. I spend a little longer on daily maintanence, but feel it is a small price to pay for the power and reliability. I have heard the stories of what it costs to replace_overhaul the Duetz, but around here the Duetz combines are selling at enough of a discount you could afford to repower with a rebuilt engine (if you had to) and still be money ahead. I have the St. Johns rotor (which is nearly identical to the CDF) and have been very impressed with it in capacity, sample, and fuel savings.

Have you run the St John's rotor in miloIJ If so, how did it work there in relation to rotor lossIJ

Only ran in soybeans and wheat so far. No rotor loss in those crops, but they were very dry. I've got all forward bars right now. I am curious myself how it'll do in milo, especially if it's a little wet. Maybe find out next year - what are you hearingIJ I have heard some rotor loss in milo is nearly unavoidable with any rotor setup, but don't know if that's true or not. Our old l2s had very, very little loss in milo.

We run our speed at 250-300 with the concave at about an 8(normally 10-12 but we had a short crop). We ran the sives at 6 on top and 4. We have every other wire removed from the processor as it was set up as a small grains machine. We had a spotless sample at 25%. I will say when we finished up on the last few hundred acres at 14-15% we did get more cob in the tank, but still better than the old rotor. You may also want to make sure you have the correct about of wedge in your concave. Too much wedge could cause excess cob breakage and slugging in beans(so I am told).

Sounds to me like the Duetz is saving us 3+ gph. On 3,500 hours that savings is huge at even $2 diesel. Our R-60 has a St. Johns in it. The two rotors were comparable in soybeans, but when it came to corn the CDF broke up signifigantly less cobs. I should take time and take some pictures of the cobs that came out of our discharge this year. It is easy to see in places like field edges along lawns or soybeans where the cobs can be clearly viewed. looks like it was harvested with a conventional combine. Awesome!

Hats off to the guy that force fed the CDF into the Gleaner system and the guys who got it marketed. There are now many more dealers ect. that are tasteing the potential of the Natural Flow. We left our only CDF equiped Sisu powered R65 just as factory delivered it and only run wheat. Rock sump system, two helicals still dumping onto feed chain, one reverse bar spinning in each location above threshing concaves, two reverse bars spinning next to discharge. This guy reports one less gal fuel per hour with similar acres covered as compared to last years QSC powered R65 with standard eight bar with sweeps, second and third helical layed down with steep pitch, and a couple other small things hyperized. Biggest problem with that comparison is that was last year and this is this year. This year was hot and dry with yields down. I have allready heard of some hyperizing that complement the CDF nicely and we'll learn more about that shortly. Thanks for the report.

Good news from Bison equiped, 300hp, short shoe, steep thresher helicals R72 in wet Milo. It can walk all over 330hp, long shoe, standard helical, standard eight bar rotor (no sweeps). little to no loss from Bison while standard eight bar is fighting it. CDF in 75 is now running with Bison equiped 72. Well I guess it wasn't last night but might be today. They had CDF out and were installing steep thresher helicals like they have in Bison machine. We'll soon find out if they can match the Bison. Hopefully there will be some reports coming on hear from some other guys down south that have installed steep thresher helicals for this season. Reports I have so far claim more whole cobs and smooth flow of green stem beans. We'll have more news as it flows in. Take care

Don't know who has one in small P3s but the guy that got them into the large P3s called it a little monster!!!

I have a couple questions that I believe some others have also. Do you have high wide wire thresher concaves in 72 or wires removed from low narrow wireIJ Have you ever run steep thresher helicalsIJ Have you got every other wire removed from seperator grate and or wires raised to better match the high wide wire available on newer machinesIJ I believe you were still running reverse bars in previous cylinder setup to prevent loss with your setup so I'm wondering how you have or where you have reverse bars on CDF. Several guys in Canada are running no reverse bars on CDF with only helical mod being the one running over corner of feeder and they are loving the setup. Some guys down south are running shimmed steep thresher helicals with CDF and reporting completely cool cage and very smooth flow in the toughest conditions. Another mod I've allready heard of someone shimming thresher cylinder bars. Don't know why they did this and maybe they just thought it would be better for their crops before they even tried machine. Anyway I point that out because I can see the adaptability and potential to fine tune these machines to any crop. Catch you later