Combines First big cost

[T__langan]

We've never had a cracked head on any of our Deutz engines. But if it will make you feel any better, you weren't the only one with bad luck today. We haven't had a good rain in several weeks - very dry conditions with next to no chance for rain for the next few days. So we call for a semi to haul soybeans - supposed to show up at 12:30 today. Started cutting about 10 AM, filled truck, grain cart, and a couple of wagons. Had 1000+ bu sitting out next to an elevator to transfer them into the semi when one single cloud came right at us at and started pouring rain. This is a neighboring farm that we rent and there was only room for two wagons in his shed. Truck was an hour and a half late - loaded him as fast as we could and as he rolled the tarp over the load, the rain quit and the sun came back out! Go figure!

 

[l3]

Did it crack the head or is it a blown "fire ring" (individual head gasket)IJ We've had a lot of trouble with that on our 9150 tractor (same motor). The experiences_ expenses I've had with that engine in this tractor is what's keeping me from buying an R50.

 

[Dan]

I have never had a cracked head but have had some head and jug gaskets leak. I think the problem begins with the shims under jug coming out of place. After a or the shims slip out the jug starts moving around which loosens strech bolts and or blows head gasket. When we have one fail we pull all the jugs to place a single .020" shim in place of whatever was there and ignore crown clearance. Most of the time there are two very thin shims under the jug which makes about a total thickness of .016 so we are increasing clearance a bit but have much less chance of shim slipping out. If you do have a cracked head I would lean toward an overdose of ether at one time or another.

 

[Dave]

Well I typed a reply and it must have gone to Hyperspace, so here I go once more.

 

[T__langan]

I am by no means any kind of expert on Deutz engines, but I think I remember someone telling me at some point that ether starting fluid is bad news in Deutz engines. Something about stretching head bolts if they get an overdose of it. We religiously try to avoid ether in our Deutzs - have them equipped with engine and oil heaters to warm 'em up in the coldest weather. Maybe yours got too strong a whiff of it at some pointIJIJ Good luck!

 

[Dave]

Maybe, it has a big can and uses it when it needs to. I have never shot any extra. I do know starting fluid can be a mistake. It is not been cold even cool here yet and it just done it all at once. I guess bolts could have been stretched and just now crackedIJIJIJ I do not know.

 

[dibber]

I think we are also looking at something expensive on our R62. I think it might be the hydro. The hydraulics have been acting up for awhile now and yesterday the combine would stall out trying trying to go up a hill. I took off the oil filter under the hydraulic tank and found it full of brass shavings. So I am sitting here wondering what I might be in store for. The hydro filter was clean no shavings in that filter. The oil had shavings floating in it, but it didn't smell burnt. Before this happened we would occasionally have the hydraulic temp light come on when we would be driving down the road. But it would go off as soon as we shifted down in the field.

 

[t_leslie]

I have also seen this on the 9150. It is very important you use new bolts when going back, you will break the old ones and have a new problem to deal with, (been there, done that) bolts are a little pricey but get them anyway. Ihope it's just your shims or fire rings, I have seen the the rocker arm studs on the bf8l513 pull loose from the aluminum head and cause all kinds of good stuff to happen.