You make a good point T. langan. But here is the rub. How much does a good mechanic make a yearIJ Computer geeks, that are worth their salt get starting salaries in the $60k and up. There are dealers of all colors that the best salesperson don't even see that kind of income after 15 to 20 years of service. I am a farm manager and I get just under $50k, and I have students of our state's university who work summers for me, graduate and get jobs right out of school starting at $45k and up. That is for a Mechanized Ag degree, Ag Eng degree's get more. These kids can do this stuff, but they are not being hired by dealers. They are being snapped up by the corporations. I am finding if a young person has a farm background, good grades, and aptitude for equipment they are wanted. I also notice that very few of these young people have had a farming parent that lets them operate big equipment and or work on it. IF the parent did, the young person is most likely headed back to farm with the family. That is why the corporations are snapping these young people up. Also did you know the Armed Forces pan for farm kids that have experience with operating big equipmentIJ If they have ran equipment they understand the "seat of your pants" feeling when the machine is in operaton. That is something that is hard to teach someone, especially when it comes to machines that fly. It is one of many reasons that there are fewer people living rural areas. Young people have seen how hard it is to make any money over the years, and they get a chance to make 50K right out of school, even their parents tell them to go, as my father did 25 years ago. I knew he was right, but it broke my heart at the time. In short the dealers can't compete with other industries. If one would be able to hire a comp geek, for $25k-35k a year. I dont want that comp geek near my equipment. I'm afriad it will be worse than no help. You are hoping there is a very special person out there that would do stocking and parts counter work, then run out to a producer in trouble with his monitoring_gps equipment, and deal with an angry owner. Most likely the person would be on call 7 days a week. Plus the dealer would have to invest in many thousands in traning this person and hope he stays to get the dealership's investment in the person back. The good ones would be gone no time. I see it as the problem with AGCO, they want to run with Green and Red in what they offer (at least appear that they are in their advertising),but they seem to want to do it on a shoe string budget. That will only put them further behind. In the end, they will have to team up with someone that can do this, either an independant company like Ag leader, or pay the royalities and use the green version or the red. OR pay the piper and hire a consulting firm and fix their problem from corporate down to the field application of the Fieldstar system. Unfortunately green has made it impossible to adapt to non green equipment. I have brother-in-law that wanted to purchase a Cat tracked tractor this year, since he could get a new one for about $25,000 less than a green version. BUT the guidence system he has is green. To get it to work in the Cat was going to cost him $20,000 to do it and have everything work with everything else that he already has. He went to look for a used green tracked tractor. I saw that as both Cat and Deere lost a sale of a new tractor. This also has affected our state's largest university research center on their purchases of equipment. I have a really bad feeling we are all going to have to make a choice on color and stick with it no matter what. OR Find something that you can use that is not color oriented and live with it, move it everytime you trade. Then keep falling behind over the years, if the company quits. Which is what we did. OR Not have the technology at all. Forgive me for blabbing my opinion on this. But this issue unfortunately is here to stay, we all have to figure out a "work around" for it. Thanks for listening.