Combines Half the bars

Removing the reverse the bars and putting in the disrupters in my combine made it use more power than before. My opion is that there was not enough of push against helicals to keep crop moving.

Did you try that in same crop and conditionsIJ I've heard of a case where two machines ran all the wheat together. One with all bars in and one with half removed. Couldn't tell the difference between the machines in that crop!! Half the bars or half height bars on seperator side will surely reduce broken cobs in corn. Haven't played with disrupters so can't say what they would do. Good luck

Widcat, This company inspired modification came about in low yielding and_or complaint of rotor loss in corn. I strongly believe in tall rank green stem soybeans that this mod. will come back to haunt all that have done it.When you are trying to convey 30ft. of this green,sappy,ropey material 90" with half the cylinder bars be prepared to start later in the morning and quit shortly after sun goes down. In my opinion I would put the cylinder bars back in and run the F2 bars. I only have one machine out with the "disruptor" type lugs on the cylinder and so far have not been impressed as we have picked up some rumbling when evening comes.Remember,you have to keep flow of material and still be able seperate grain. Good luck, Hyper Harvest II

Thanks for the input. A Hyper Harvest post in 2001 recommended up to 50% low forward bars in the separator section for corn. Would this be your current recommendation for 150+ corn and heavey, green-stemmed beansIJ

I thought the half height that you pioneered and leaving every other bar off like Gleaner is preaching was to reduce broken cob. I don't see how the half height bars would help move the material over. I am finding out more and more that you need to sweep the seperator side. The rasp bars surely work with helicals to move material over but nothing like sweeps. The longer the straw the more the rasp bars seem to want to keep pulling material around and around. Sweeps do not seem to move it to fast for it can't much but push the material against back side of helical. I have a set that ran in 70 bu. beans with not problems. He did comment on how nice the material came out and spread out after the sweeps. Stems were not green last year so hope to get more info this year. He also ran in 220 Bu. plus corn with no problem. He had small headers also last year so we need to hold tight. We have found no crops they don't work well in yet. Some grass and dry beans we were terrible at before sweeps. Take care

Wildcat, Yes, still advocate running lo-Profile cylinder bars(half height)in row three and row four. Alternating two low bars next to each other and then next putting two standard height bars next to each other etc.... I like the idea of rotor sweeps that Dan refers to,but have not had the chance to give them a try in soybeans.Playing with another cylinder mod. this year,trying to get rotor loss to nill in tough conditions.As always you never know until you try. Remember,think outside the box. Hyper Harvest II

Do you have pictures or a description of the sweeps you are usingIJ I have seen pictures of the ones St. John's Welding are building, are they similiarIJ Thanks for your response.

St. John has a similiar idea to do about the same trick. I wish he would start his sweep closer to concave. I'll send you pictures if you get me your email address.

Here's my address. I'm intrigued by Terry's 6 row enclosed rotor. If 8 rows are too many and 4 is not enough in tough conditions, maybe that's the answer. I'd be interested to know how they are working in green stemmed soybeans and milo in particular. I'm glad you guys are experimenting with this stuff, I wish I had time.

Pictures of sweeps on an old experimental rotor will be coming your way. I'll be testing something beyond that soon. Sweeps are opening doors. From what I've learned about milo I believe they could be the answer. No doubt they will help a bunch with green stem beans. Not easy to find time and test some of this stuff but it's been do or die in some cases. Take care